Ad Hinsh, Reading Fans and RFC Generally

[Sheebo]

Re: Re: Re: Ad Hinsh, Reading Fans and RFC Generally

In fairness, some of our "fans" in the south stand shouted abuse at McCammon when he collapsed last year. SCUM

best thing that had happened for AGES

 

[Sheebo]

Wow.
I didn't know it was possible to be Mis-informed, deluded, and talking bullshit all in one great big jealousy fest.


When you get Falmer you're going to be trying to do the same thing as we are (Establishing yourself as a bigger club than you've ever been destined to be), and will you sit there ripping the piss out of yourselves when barely anybody can be arsed to spend £22.50 going to an armpit of a stadium on a Tuesday night when you pay less than half that to go to your own, superb ground, and if your manager insists on giving away "Thundersticks" to kids, will you laugh at those that buy into it, because the club is always right, whatever they do..? (Pardew's idea, he saw them in America)
Will you resent your club buying thier way up the leagues should you get the means to (And from what I understand, you were largely funded by a private investor in the 1970s - Please correct me if I'm wrong), and will you resent all the new fans that turn up because they CAN,, and will you resent those that turn your club from one that is merely a wannabe which watches other clubs progress, into one of those progressive clubs that is actually going somewhere?
Will you take the piss out of your new plastic stadium when it gets built, and doesn't get filled up, because it sure as hell won't for a good few years, and will you complain like hell when you're just another club again, which you will definately become.


Bear in mind that as long as you take the piss out of us, we are going to reply with just as much venom that you do - its a two way street, and if you're going to walk down it, so are we.

I respect your club for what you are, but the sheer amount of jealousy and resentment of my club, which has come a long way in a relatively short space of time, makes me view a lot of you as merely ignorant fools, that look through rose tinted glasses at the Brighton of the past, not seeing what is ahead of you.

The people with brains at your club want Brighton and Hove Albion want to be like Reading FC in some respects, but don't want to have the other baggage that comes with it.

Take the piss out of me if you like, call me a twat, call me a wanker, call me a '!!!!!!!!!!!', but remember, your club is going to be following EXACTLY the same route that mine is now, and whether you like it or not, your club is going to join ALL the others that people just view as another football club, ordinary people will watch it, and you're going to get fairweathers just like we do, and all the baggage that we do...

jealous of SHIT Reading? ur avin a bubble skimpbo

we are not destined to be a big club..we ARE a big club but at the mo the ground hinders that..we have a lot of history and fair play if ur a loyal reading fan but our fans are clearly 10 times better...u no that deep down...also ur a bunch of poaching !!!!!.... but u do have a fairly good team..just a shame they resorted to cheating to beat lowly brighton he...

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

The reason Coppell didn't start the season here was because he consistently missed meetings (meetings Coppell himself called) leaving the club more and more in the lurch. In the end, Dick had to employ SOMEONE. That someone, as you so delicately put it, was Tinselhead who, but for the first two games, was a total disaster.

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If you don't mind me asking, how do you know that?

 

[Dave the OAP]

why does queen ali come on here when all she does is talk shite and noone is interested in her tin pot little club?

anyway i actually thought the announcer's comment was very funny, as I thought he said " scored by an oggie...." as in Own goal.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I think you've missed the point of my posts.

My point is that you are what you are now, but with Falmer, you will be trying to emulate Reading in various respects, and with the good things about that, you will get the bad parts as well.

As for being a big club, surely that is for fans of other clubs to decide? - you may have had a period of relative success in the 1970s and 80's, but as far as most people's eyes see, you're nothing more than a championship club that gets 7,000 fans in.
Good luck to you once you get Falmer, but I don't think you'll be the same sized club you were 20 years ago.

Only time will tell.

blah blah blah blah

get back to the ironing you tosser

 

[Dave the OAP]

Why don't you just f*** off if you can't have a decent discussion?


I seriously had you down as an alright person, but hey, we all make mistakes, don't we?

you know perfectly well why I think you are a XXXX

If you want to come on here spouting your bile about Reading -WHO WE DONT GIVE A f*** ABOUT - then what do you expect.

No isn't it about time you gave it a rest and went to a Reading board where they actually give a toss about Reading.

can i make it any more simpler?

 

[Parson Henry]

you know perfectly well why I think you are a XXXX

If you want to come on here spouting your bile about Reading -WHO WE DONT GIVE A f*** ABOUT - then what do you expect.

No isn't it about time you gave it a rest and went to a Reading board where they actually give a toss about Reading.

can i make it any more simpler?

Bang a drum whilst you are saying it DTG.

 

[Simster]

you know perfectly well why I think you are a XXXX

If you want to come on here spouting your bile about Reading -WHO WE DONT GIVE A f*** ABOUT - then what do you expect.

No isn't it about time you gave it a rest and went to a Reading board where they actually give a toss about Reading.

can i make it any more simpler?

This thread got boring as soon as SALLY turned up. Good work SPICING IT UP, Dave.

 

[Rusco]

I wonder how they'll cope when Madjeski pulls out his money?

Unfortunately at present the only thing he is pulling out of is Cilla Black

 

[Ex Shelton Seagull]

What a surprise. Someone posts some derogatory comments about Reading FC and with a click of the fingers guess who turns up and totally loses his rag.
Again.

If you didn't ALWAYS bite back and have a hissy fit every time someone on a BRIGHTON board has a pop at Reading then I can tell you now, this place would have a lot less anti-Reading jibes posted on it. I made a comment before likening winding you up with going fishing using dynamite. You are guaranteed to get a result.

My problem, and i'm guessing that quite a few others share this view, is that Reading FC are the epitome of "new" football. They are the standard bearers for the new shiny football product that has dominated the sport since SKY showed up on the scene.

The clackersticks, the replica shirts, the all-seater ground on the outskirts of town, the bullying stewards, music after goals, that relentless f***ing insistence on everybody having a good time at the football or ELSE. A lot of people don't really like all that and they resent having it shoved in their faces and told that they HAVE to like it because "this is the future".

Reading FC are the standard bearers for all of this, even more so than Wigan Athletic. There are others like this, Norwich City for one, but they can sort of half get away with it because most of us have some sort of respect for who they are and where they've come from. Reading and Wigan don't get any of that because as far as most of us are concerned you didn't really exist before the SKY age. You'll disput that of course, but that's the perception. You are "new money" and that title is always treated with contempt.

Now Wigan Athletic kind of half get away with it all. They had no real history, their chairman has helped them buy their way to the top and given them a shiny new ground. Yet most of the media ran stories about how "plucky" they were and how "romantic" it was to see them at the top. You might expect Reading to get the same treatment. I don't think you will.

I reckon that Wigan got positive press because of the "bluff" northerner stereotype that most southern journalists reach for when doing pieces on northern teams. There is some sort of identity that they could claim and exploit. Reading, on the other hand, is a southern commuter town, perhaps the ultimate commuter town, and southern commuter towns do not induce warm images. They are seen as the home of "chavs" and the birthplace of soulless Britain.

Whilst Brighton & Hove is to some extent a commuter town, we have managed to craft a sort of "bohemian" identity for ourselves, an image of a holiday town with a thriving sub-culture. How true that is is open to debate but that is the perception. Reading on the other hand has nowt. I see the town as the mother of places like Hayward's Heath and East Grinstead. A place that is wrapped up in the middle class image that most of us live but that most of pretend we don't. A world of industrial estates, office workers, Marks & Sparks and Wetherspoons and Yate's in the evening. A world most of us live in but one that most of us don't really like.

So when you take this middle-classness and add it to the football club and try and make an identity from it, what do you get? You get the sort of insecure boasting that goes hand in hand with being middle-class. You get the teenagers in brand new replica shirts doing the "easy, easy" thing, you get crowing matchday announcers and you get the resentment and irritation towards that from the other 21 clubs in this division. The other 21 clubs who ALL feel that they have a history and an identity that is unique to them and that they are the very opposite of everything Reading FC are.

When Falmer is built and we start doing better in the League I have little doubt that we too will attract the teenage kids in new shirts going "easy, easy". However I also think that we will maintain some sort of identity despite that, that opposition supporters will have some small understanding of who we are. For Reading FC their identity IS those arrogant loudmouth kids and music after goals and that is not an identity that encourages respect or sympathy.

 

[Simster]

Nice post Ex-Shelton.

So SALLY, in summary:
You're a two bob nothing club with nouveau money - like Wigan.

But unlike Wigan, you wave clackersticks around and your PA announcer takes the piss out of opposing players in a feeble attempt to drum up some rivalry. And this is the reason we think you're a bunch of sad trainspotting tossers. And McGhee got it right.

 

[Bluejuice]

One point I'd like to raise...

For the away fan our CITY of Brighton as a place offers infinitely more than the TOWN of Reading. Fans who've got a long journey to get here might even choose to make a weekend of it during the warmer months. You can take the Mrs, and leave her to do some shopping or enjoy the beach whilst at the game. There are more pubs and bars than you can shake a stick at. The people are generally friendly and welcoming and it is one of the safest places in the UK. Why wouldn't you want to come down and watch Brighton play when we've got a nice new stadium? We'll have the whole package.

Regardless of our respective histories, our attendances, trophies won etc etc. Brighton will ALWAYS be a far more attractive place to visit. You can bring the kids along and even if your team loses at Falmer, you can still have a good time.

Compare this to the miserable commuter TOWN of Reading where you've more chance of being mugged for the shirt off your back than you have of meeting a decent human being.

I've never found a nice pub in Reading, the whole TOWN centre is a smog filled complex road network, almost impossible to navigate either on foot or by car and if I NEVER have to visit the place again (and I've had to endure it on far too many occasions so I do know what I'm talking about) I will be a happy man.

This might not have much to do with football but when you're comparing the relative size and importance of our two clubs Brighton easily comes out on top. We've won trophies, we've been in the top flight, we've had a cup final at Wembley but more importantly your average football fan could tell you on a map where we lie. Everyone knows Brighton as a liberal seaside resort. Reading on the other hand has absolutely nothing to recommend it. There is not one single reason I can think of that puts Reading on the map. Why would anyone who doesn't live or work there need to know where it is, other than to avoid it?

Horrible, soulless place that makes Croydon look like Paris by comparison.

And this isn't aimed at you Royal Ali, I'm not trying to wind you up. This is just the way I see it. I've had nothing but bad experiences in Reading and the whole place makes me feel very uncomfortable

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

If you want to come on here spouting your bile about Reading -WHO WE DONT GIVE A f*** ABOUT - then what do you expect.

Over the last few years I've seen more threads on NSC about Reading than about any other rival club bar Palace. Such threads are a regular feature. This is only the latest of many, many examples. So to say that Brighton fans don't give a f*** about Reading is obviously cobblers.

 

[bhaexpress]

Over the last few years I've seen more threads on NSC about Reading than about any other rival club bar Palace. Such threads are a regular feature. This is only the latest of many, many examples. So to say that Brighton fans don't give a f*** about Reading is obviously cobblers.

Yet again very valid.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Reading and Wigan don't get any of that because as far as most of us are concerned you didn't really exist before the SKY age.

I find all of this 'Reading have no history' stuff baffling.

Cardiff City beat Reading in an FA Cup semi-final way back in 1927. And I think I'm right in saying that the Royals spent most of the pre-war period in the same division as the Albion. So, if they have no history, then where does that leave Brighton?

 

[dwayne]

I actually think there is a bit of jealousy towards our Berkshire neighbours. We go on about them being a plastic set of fans, but would we get as high an average if we were in a similar position, maybe not?

..and the last couple of visits there they have been louder than quite a few other championship fans.


...and TLO how can you say they are a club with no ambition?

 

[The Large One]

It's a club which has no ambition for the town or the wider community, nor in the football sense apart from as a means for making Madejski another fortune. Madesjski has ambition, the rest of the club just tags along.

Once he goes, watch Reading fall. Badly.

 

[The Large One]

I find all of this 'Reading have no history' stuff baffling.

Cardiff City beat Reading in an FA Cup semi-final way back in 1927. And I think I'm right in saying that the Royals spent most of the pre-war period in the same division as the Albion. So, if they have no history, then where does that leave Brighton?

I agree about the 'no history' bollocks. We had no real 'history' (save our glorious 1910 triumph...) pre-war. However, post-war, and especially from the mid-1970s onwards, the two clubs' paths definitely diverged.

 

[northstandnorth]

Over the last few years I've seen more threads on NSC about Reading than about any other rival club bar Palace. Such threads are a regular feature. This is only the latest of many, many examples. So to say that Brighton fans don't give a f*** about Reading is obviously cobblers.

got it wrong bluebird.

we dont give a f*** about reading fans,the whole town is solid chelsea,always has been always will.the only fans they get are chelsea fans who cant afford the train fare and have been priced out of stamford bridge.thats why they are a tiny club and always will be.bit like wigan up till this season(as a well travelled baadiff fan you obviously have been there so you know thier biggest rivals are wigan rugby club and the whole town only comes alive when st helens visit)reading,lovely ground no fans no fun no atmosphere unless they win.
the main topic that attracts traffic this last couple of years is the fact that mad jetski uses us a pseudo scouting team-he waits for us to spot talent -or for our better contacts to offer us players,then waits till we give them a run in the team and snatches them off us with his superior buying power.

but rivals,come on we take leyton borient more seriously.

 

[Ex Shelton Seagull]

Of course every team has a history. Scunthorpe United used to be in the old 2nd Division and I think once finished above Liverpool. Rotherham were once a few points off being promoted to the top flight in the early 80's. Shrewsbury played in the 2nd division alongside us for most of the 80's. These clubs all have histories which their supporters are proud of.

Yet if you asked most people they would probably say: "who the f*** are they?"

Yes, Reading have been in competition with us for a large part of our history, i'm sure they did amazing things in the 20's. Yet the perception remains that they have "no history" because most people don't have many memories about them. We went through what Reading are doing now in the 70's and 80's. As a result we gained a sort of "reputation" which mainly featured Gordon Smith. If Reading stay in the top flight for a couple of years and reach a Cup final then people will change their perceptions about Reading FC. But for now they are "unknown" and as result their rise through the divisions inspires envy and hostility from those who consider themselves to have "history" and "tradition".