Ad Hinsh, Reading Fans and RFC Generally

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Crap Town,

Crap Football Club

Plastic fans.

Wanna swap their current position - of course.

Wanna swap teams and support them - you're having a laugh.

No history, no soul,no nothing.

Probably be in the prem for 2 seasons, then a very quick fall to end up mid table in League 1 in about 4 years time, with crowds of about 7 thousand max.

 

[Simster]

Not just playing D.A., but...

How many times did we sing "shit ground no fans" when we were working our way up the leagues?

Quite often down-on-their luck clubs struggling to survive, and then caring, sharing Brighton rock up and takes the piss out of ancient stands they'd love to replace and the empty spaces in those stands they'd love to have paying customers for.

Pot. Kettle Black?
Mayo. Kitson. Strawberry blonde?

Good point Bozza, but they're still twats. Let's consider the evidence:

Do our fans turn up with clackersticks? No.
Do we take 200 fans do Reading? No.
Have we ever laughed at any of their injured players? No.
Does our PA man take the piss out of their team? No.
And finally, is NSC anything like as shit as their equivalent? Come on Bozza, you should know that one - you're always on there ALBION DAZ.

 

[Bozza]

All fair points Simster - my point was just the "no ground, shit fans" one.

(I hadn't been on HNA for many month before my visit after this weekend's game. And with no-one else defending us, someone had to do it...)

 

[The Large One]

Funny how you were up his arse a couple of years ago

Never was, never have been. He was always totally conceited and arrogant without having the credentials here to justify it. (Apart from writing a nice letter saying how important is was we got Falmer. "Gee, no shit, Sherlock")

Filed under 'JUST HOW WRONG CAN ERNEST GET?', Coppell treated Dick Knight and the club like shit. The reason Coppell didn't start the season here was because he consistently missed meetings (meetings Coppell himself called) leaving the club more and more in the lurch. In the end, Dick had to employ SOMEONE. That someone, as you so delicately put it, was Tinselhead who, but for the first two games, was a total disaster.

Little Scouse bastard walked out on us for a big payday in the end anyway.

 

[Caveman]

Terrible place inhabited by low-life scum

No just plastic supporters / muppets.

 

[bhaexpress]

Not just playing D.A., but...

How many times did we sing "shit ground no fans" when we were working our way up the leagues?

Quite often down-on-their luck clubs struggling to survive, and then caring, sharing Brighton rock up and takes the piss out of ancient stands they'd love to replace and the empty spaces in those stands they'd love to have paying customers for.

Pot. Kettle Black?
Mayo. Kitson. Strawberry blonde?

Valid.

 

[bhaexpress]

Wow.
I didn't know it was possible to be Mis-informed, deluded, and talking bullshit all in one great big jealousy fest.


When you get Falmer you're going to be trying to do the same thing as we are (Establishing yourself as a bigger club than you've ever been destined to be), and will you sit there ripping the piss out of yourselves when barely anybody can be arsed to spend £22.50 going to an armpit of a stadium on a Tuesday night when you pay less than half that to go to your own, superb ground, and if your manager insists on giving away "Thundersticks" to kids, will you laugh at those that buy into it, because the club is always right, whatever they do..? (Pardew's idea, he saw them in America)
Will you resent your club buying thier way up the leagues should you get the means to (And from what I understand, you were largely funded by a private investor in the 1970s - Please correct me if I'm wrong), and will you resent all the new fans that turn up because they CAN,, and will you resent those that turn your club from one that is merely a wannabe which watches other clubs progress, into one of those progressive clubs that is actually going somewhere?
Will you take the piss out of your new plastic stadium when it gets built, and doesn't get filled up, because it sure as hell won't for a good few years, and will you complain like hell when you're just another club again, which you will definately become.


Bear in mind that as long as you take the piss out of us, we are going to reply with just as much venom that you do - its a two way street, and if you're going to walk down it, so are we.

I respect your club for what you are, but the sheer amount of jealousy and resentment of my club, which has come a long way in a relatively short space of time, makes me view a lot of you as merely ignorant fools, that look through rose tinted glasses at the Brighton of the past, not seeing what is ahead of you.

The people with brains at your club want Brighton and Hove Albion want to be like Reading FC in some respects, but don't want to have the other baggage that comes with it.

Take the piss out of me if you like, call me a twat, call me a wanker, call me a '!!!!!!!!!!!', but remember, your club is going to be following EXACTLY the same route that mine is now, and whether you like it or not, your club is going to join ALL the others that people just view as another football club, ordinary people will watch it, and you're going to get fairweathers just like we do, and all the baggage that we do...

Also valid.

 

[Yorkie]

But we have got three trophies

 

[pasty]

But we have got three trophies

And we have got the stripes going the correct way on our shirts

 

[The Large One]

And in reading that post Ali, totally sum up the fact that you have comepletely missed the point. And I am not going to call you personnally a wanker. However...

No-one on here could ever accuse themselves of being jealous of Reading Football Club. The resentment you feel (wrongly) is on this board, is not towards the place Reading FC finds itself, it's the attitude to others your club has now that you have reached the position you find yourself in (for the very first time in your history). A real case of 'I'm alright, Jack...' This makes your club's aspirations not a goal to achieve but a trap to avoid.

Where a club achieves indigenous growth through its own popularity, then it can be judged a project with noble merit. But you haven't so much bought yourselves up the league, but you have had a plastic ready-made football club brought to you on a plate, without the ready-made fanbase to support it. It's an unfortunate attitude that the one voice representing the club that everyone hears (the announcer) has once a modicum of success has been achieved. Is he indicative of Reading Football Club? If so, that's not good for you.

The club is popular because it's successful, rather than succesful because it's popular.

 

[Yorkie]

Nice try Al

 

[Bozza]

will you sit there ripping the piss out of yourselves when barely anybody can be arsed to spend £22.50 going to an armpit of a stadium on a Tuesday night when you pay less than half that to go to your own, superb ground

Because you were shaking with rage/excitement when you wrote this, I really do not understand what you're saying there. Could you please calm down a bit and have another go please.

your club is going to join ALL the others that people just view as another football club

You see this is the bit that really gets you, I think. Like it or not (and many of those at other, similar sized clubs tend not to - the Albion will never be just another football club. Mainly because Brighton is not just another town. It is hip, trendy, funky, by-the-sea. When we get Falmer we won't be just another club with just another soul-less new stadium.

It will be "bloody hell all that fighting Brighton fans did actually did it. Remember the snapped crossbar at the York game, remember how Fans United started, remember Hereford away, remember two years having to cover 170 miles to get to a 'home' game, the crappy little athletics stadium, the public inquiries, the flowers to Prescott. It worked. It only all bloody worked."

And that's what pisses off supporters of clubs like Reading. Similar sized clubs in the big scheme of things. Regardless of what you do Brighton will be higher profile, get more column inches and generally be better regarded. Just live with it, eh?

 

[The Large One]

Nice try Al

You might be 'jealous' and 'resentful' of Reading, Yorkie. I am not.

 

[Yorkie]

You might be 'jealous' and 'resentful' of Reading, Yorkie. I am not.

Wrong Al. I was talking to Royal Al.

 

[The Large One]

Wrong Al. I was talking to Royal Al.

Oh. Sorry.

But I still meant it.

 

[Gully]

We already have an image, that of a vibrant city beside the sea, it is the one i buy into, I don't see any need to copy any other club, least of all Reading.

 

[bhaexpress]

Well, Steve Coppell, who has managed both clubs has stated quite openly that BHA are the bigger team. Whether they are or not is a moot point.

I have nothing personally against Reading, either as a place or a team. I also think that they are the best team in the Championship. Would we have been quite so pissed off if say Leeds had knocked five past us under the same circumstances ? I don't think so.

I can remember, as can more tha afew here that 25 years ago we walked the walk and talked the talk as we were in the top flight whilst Reading were yoyoing between Divisions three and four but times change, things change.

However, they can change again can't they ?

 

[Bozza]

To be honest with you, I don't see any difference between the loyal fans of Reading than the loyal fans of any other club.

Amen.

Most football supporters, when you wash away the particular colours, are the same. We go through the same emotions, we do the same things. We've all set off for home at 5pm on a Saturday afternoon when we've been left disappointed by the performance of our on-pitch heroes, pissed off at the 200 miles of motorway before we get to the pub we'd rather be in then and there.

 

[Gully]

Ali, your last post sums up the situation perfectly, there are undoubtedly fans following your club who have latched on to the success that has come during the past few years, as there will be with ours once we get to Falmer. There are however quite a few who have been there through thick and thin, these are the real fans, not the johnny come-lately glory seekers.

 

[Da Man Clay]

No it doesn't - People that know how you got where you got may be, but a lot of people don't know about your plight, your history, or whats happened since you were last in the papers.
This is exactly the thing that pissed off Reading fans - You think you're special to people, but sorry to break this to you - but to a lot of people you are JUST ANOTHER CLUB, like to you, Reading are.

To be fair 90% of away grounds ive been to in the 3-4 know all about our recent history including Reading and a fair few fans have found the time to discuss Falmer issue with myself. Ive met a lot of away fans who have know alot about the public enquires and the plight we have been in at Withdean.