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[Football] A car has ploughed into some Liverpool fans at their victory parade









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Sounds horrible.

Also sad is that BBC reporting a 53 year old white man arrested.

Man arrested, perhaps with pointless age, should suffice and would be the normal response. Can't help but feel this is how Farage has changed our country for the worse. If you don't specify the race you risk 'whilst I don't know whether it was an immigrant/foreigner it is reasonable to ask' blah blah blah.
Reducing risk of the usual sorts burning down mosques and stoning asylum seeker hostels.
 










clapham_gull

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I’ve made my first foray into Twitter for several months to see the footage of this. f*** me, I thought it was bad enough back in the autumn, but that place is beyond a cess pit now
It worsens daily, but I do find it interesting as an insight into the stupidity of millions and those attempting to take advantage of the stupidity of millions.
 






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It worsens daily, but I do find it interesting as an insight into the stupidity of millions and those attempting to take advantage of the stupidity of millions.
The gleeful disregard of evidence and the eagerness to embrace confirmation of bias seems to be the hallmark of a noisy sub-contingent of human beings. Their right to have an opinion being their trump card in any argument.
They don't normally vote but have lined up fore-square behind Nigel, and his new brand of national socialism.
Perhaps, if they actually start doing their own actual research....however hell is likely to freeze over sooner.
 




darkwolf666

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Times reporting the driver was visibly drunk according to witnesses and had come out of a nearby bar.
Since Jean Charles de Menezes case I always take immediate “eye-witness” statements, particularly of those keen to talk to the media, with an EXTREMELY large pinch of salt.

Clearly, time will tell, but really it’s just more speculation to add to the story and the way of social media and news outlets wanting to have the scoop on it.
 




BN41Albion

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Sounds horrible.

Also sad is that BBC reporting a 53 year old white man arrested.

Man arrested, perhaps with pointless age, should suffice and would be the normal response. Can't help but feel this is how Farage has changed our country for the worse. If you don't specify the race you risk 'whilst I don't know whether it was an immigrant/foreigner it is reasonable to ask' blah blah blah.

I think in this case it probably is important to specify that it was a white man. Surely we all jumped to the same conclusion in terms of assuming it was terrorism?

Means the racist scumbags spouting shit on social media will have to wind their neck in
 




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Times reporting the driver was visibly drunk according to witnesses and had come out of a nearby bar.
I’m a white British bloke in my 50s who likes drinking in bars although I would never drink and drive or drive at children.

Nevertheless, would it be reasonable for me to expect angry protests outside my house, justified by a thought that I should be doing more to control my own community?
 




Dick Swiveller

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Saddened to hear about this, especially for the children injured and who witnessed it.

It seems many people have a very sensitive trigger to go into a rage nowadays. I don't like being in big crowds anymore, sadly, for this reason
There was an older guy climbing up to get at a Spurs fan on the way out Sunday. I don't know what was said but I doubt it was vile enough to warrant the spectacle he made of himself. At West Ham, there was a young lad seething at a West Ham fan who was "mugging him off". The West Ham guy would have pulped him. Drink (or more) was clearly the cause both times. But you are right - something has changed the tolerance of a lot of people. And it could well be social media and the usual news outlets peddling nothing but hysteria. A large part of society are being whipped up into hatred for political division. Both extremes of the political spectrum as well.
 
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BrickTamland

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There was an older guy climbing up to get at a Spurs fan on the way out Sunday. I don't know what was said but I doubt it was vile enough to warrant the spectacle he made of himself. At West Ham, there was a young lad seething at a West Ham fan who was "mugging him off". The West Ham guy would have pulped him. Drink (or more) was clearly the cause both times. But you are right - something has changed the tolerance of a lot of people. And it could well be social media and the usual news outlets peddling nothing but hysteria. A large part of society are being whipped up into hatred for political division. Both extremes of the political spectrum as well.
Yeah no one was violent at football in the 80s before Twitter
 




Triggaaar

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What is the point though when successive governments do little to address the core issue.

I’m a white British bloke in my 50s who likes drinking in bars although I would never drink and drive or drive at children.

Nevertheless, would it be reasonable for me to expect angry protests outside my house, justified by a thought that I should be doing more to control my own community?

Well it seems the government can't be bothered to deal with your type, so yes, I think you need to control your community or get out of the country. Have I got that right @Zebedee ? Sorry, I'm only a beginner Nazi.
 




Iggle Piggle

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I’ve made my first foray into Twitter for several months to see the footage of this. f*** me, I thought it was bad enough back in the autumn, but that place is beyond a cess pit now.

I used to enjoy Twitter and wasted more time on there than here a few years ago. Like you, I rarely go there now but did last night for a peak.

Jesus Christ. The first video it wanted to show me was from Tommy Robinson with all the predictable replies. It didn't get any better from there. Simply awful.
 


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There was an older guy climbing up to get at a Spurs fan on the way out Sunday. I don't know what was said but I doubt it was vile enough to warrant the spectacle he made of himself. At West Ham, there was a young lad seething at a West Ham fan who was "mugging him off". The West Ham guy would have pulped him. Drink (or more) was clearly the cause both times. But you are right - something has changed the tolerance of a lot of people. And it could well be social media and the usual news outlets peddling nothing but hysteria. A large part of society are being whipped up into hatred for political division. Both extremes of the political spectrum as well.
I agree with your analysis up to the highlight. My first thought was that I have yet to come across a left wing 'footy lad'. One assumes you are bringing under your umbrella of opprobrium the 'just stop oil' sorts. Still.....do they a have a reputation for unprovoked violence? 'Violent socialists' is more a Trump trope than a recognized social blight.

My point is that 'they are all the same on the fringes, left and right' is probably not helpful or, indeed, correct. But 'not helpful' is the bigger issue. We have an element who are triggered incredibly quickly by what they see as being 'mugged off' by anything from an asylum seeker to a fan of another football club. I'm not sure this has anything to do with left and right, and I know many on the right who wouldn't subscribe to any of this tomfoolery. It just so happens that most who are like this today would probably fit into the Reform end of the spectrum. But to me this is almost incidental. I don't blame Farage. It is the people themselves who are at fault. Lazy, weak-minded fools, basking in unfounded certainties.
 


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