Good old Sheene and Hunt, back when British racing drivers were white and didn’t speak out of turn.
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[Misc] F1 2021
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Good old Sheene and Hunt, back when British racing drivers were white and didn’t speak out of turn.
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Sid in the Sharknado
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Aren't the Mercedes F1 team based in Brackley anyway?
For that matter, apart from Ferrari, Alpha Romeo and AlphaTauri they're all based in Britain.
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How on earth and why on earth would you bring colour into this?
Yup - I’m fairly sure the Mercedes team is the old Braun F1 team, founded by Ross Braun?
Why did Hamilton have to stick his nose into alleged racism? What’t it got to do with him?
Sheene and Hunt didn’t.
Sid in the Sharknado
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It was Brawn, Honda before that, I'd have to look it up before that but it wasn't Honda originally. BAR or something like that? It will have been based in the UK anyway. I think I'm right in saying that apart from Jackie Stewart's Tatra or whatever it was called all the non-Ferrari championship winning cars have been designed in Britain.
KeegansHairPiece
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Mercedes F1 is Ken Tyrrell’s old team:
Tyrrell Racing
British American Racing
Honda F1
Brawn GP
Mercedes
But despite HQ and history don’t think you can call Mercedes a British team, but yeah Britain is the heart of F1.
Sid in the Sharknado
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Why not? They drive under a German license but the work happens in Britain. Cars aren't designed by paperwork and flags after all.
KeegansHairPiece
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It’s funded and run by a German company. It was a Japanese team when Honda as it was run and funded by a Japanese company. It would be a bit like saying all Hondas and Nissans made in the UK are British cars?
Our engineering excellence, along with some great Austrian/German input and €€€€ …. an enduring hell for arrogant Ferrari.
So good, they finally conceded we’re better by poaching Brawn, Stepney and Byrne in the late 90’s.
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Sid in the Sharknado
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Personally if the team's based in Britain I consider it to be British, regardless of where the money comes from. When I've worked on a bridge design in South Australia, the design work was done in a British office, regardless of the fact that the South Australian government was paying for it.
I'd view the original Honda team as Japanese, since as far as I know it was set up and run in Japan. Similarly the original Mercedes team was German. But I don't care if a foreign company buys a team and changes the nationality on the license.
KeegansHairPiece
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Well, that’s fair enough. I guess this only came up because Mouldy said he prefers to support a British Driver in a British team. Given Brackley was home to Tyrrell Racing, perhaps Hamilton still is.
Sid in the Sharknado
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You might say that. I couldn't possibly comment.
I've had enough arguments with you on the cricket threads, I've no desire to argue with you about a sport I don't know anything about
I'm mainly trying to take my mind off the horror show earlier while I'm on the train home.
KeegansHairPiece
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You might say that. I couldn't possibly comment.
I've had enough arguments with you on the cricket threads, I've no desire to argue with you about a sport I don't know anything about
I'm mainly trying to take my mind off the horror show earlier while I'm on the train home.
I think cricket is best left alone now for the moment too!
Brawn. But yes, Merc bought Brawn. But Brawn was Honda. And before that, it was BAR. And before BAR it was Tyrell.
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Raleigh Chopper
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Err, that Max Verstappen is Dutch and not a gent and drives a car with an Austrian license and sponsored by a Swiss energy drink.
Based in England maybe but not really a thoroughbred British team are they.
Now if you croaked on about Williams and George Russell or McClaren and Lando Norris as much as you do a Dutchman then you would have a valid point.
You need a 50/50 flag in your Avatar.
Nitram
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Be interesting if the penalties are applied to Max Sunday morning, he could be moved back three places along with Bottas.* That will make it interesting. Also being reported that Hamilton is saving his engine used from last week for the last two races and is using the Mexico one this time! That’s a bit of a game changer for the last two races!
* for ignoring yellow flags.
* for ignoring yellow flags.
Icy Gull
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Let me guess…absolutely nothing will happen, the Stewards are the same as the last race and it’s very clear on which side of the fence they are sitting.
This is interesting, Lewis getting support from the co drivers who agreed to talk, on Max’s attempted mugging of Lewis.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59361848
“The other drivers who spoke on the topic pretty much all agreed with Hamilton.”
Those other drivers must be bias Hamilton fan boys. They shouldn’t be allowed in F1 if they are so blatantly fans of another driver. They should all be sacked and replaced by ‘balanced’ drivers who are unbiased.
- In other news, I suspect Max will lose a particular lap from qualifying rather than any grid places (not sure what lap his transgression was though).
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I am not a Max fan.....I have said this....I am an F1 fan who wants to see two preferably 3 teams who actually stand a chance of winning races, Red bull have closed that gap.
I am Landos and mcLarens no1 fan.
Perhaps you should read what I write, and not read into what you think I think?