Happy to tap in the open goals that your scattergun approach here is providing...
Let's stay where we are then...
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Let's stay where we are then...
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"Stay alert" - new govenment messaging
- Thread starter Wozza
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If you think changing the slogan to a weaker one will help, and think that pointing that out scores you a goal, and making comments about my 'approach' makes you right, I raise one eyebrow.
Problem is that there are an awful lot of morons out there who either wont understand or more likely will understand but decide it suits them better to interpret it differently
If you think changing the slogan to a weaker one will help, and think that pointing that out scores you a goal, and making comments about my 'approach' makes you right, I raise one eyebrow.
Come on fella, in one breath you say the slogan works and in the next you highlight where it's not.
In all likelihood the people you are talking about will do what the hell they like regardless, but it seems to be a commonly-held perception right now that people have "relaxed" a bit, and if there's any chance that people can be prompted to properly consider their actions more carefully, then all the better.
You, me and a large number of the population know what we need to do - "Stay the **** from everyone else" - and will continue to do so.
I understand your points, and I am also very concerned about these wider issues if this carries on. I made a point in another post that if we increased restristriction and beat the number of new cases down, like the disciplined Germans have managed, we could then move to a strong focused tracking and isolating strategy (too many cases currently for that to work) that would allow the rest of us to do more, importanty work and earn an income. The danger of nuance and loosening of rules now is that cases may start going up again. There is a hint this may have begun in Germany where restrictions were loosened a week ago. I am concerned the government has jumped the gun. We will find out in 2-3 weeks....all the best
Fair points all. I think tonight will represent an easing in almost name only, and I agree with you that that is all it should be. Drive down the numbers for another 3 weeks, get on top of testing and get the app going. Then we can start to move forward a little more.
I understand your points, and I am also very concerned about these wider issues if this carries on. I made a point in another post that if we increased restristriction and beat the number of new cases down, like the disciplined Germans have managed, we could then move to a strong focused tracking and isolating strategy (too many cases currently for that to work) that would allow the rest of us to do more, importanty work and earn an income. The danger of nuance and loosening of rules now is that cases may start going up again. There is a hint this may have begun in Germany where restrictions were loosened a week ago. I am concerned the government has jumped the gun. We will find out in 2-3 weeks....all the best
An increase in civil unrest out there, so perhaps not so disciplined as is thought. We haven’t seen such protests yet!
We shall have to disagree about the need to improve the old slogan with a new weaker one. I said the old slogan was fine and the new one isn't. There is nothing contradictory about that. You then made comments about people politicizing their reaction to the slogan change, which is a lazy way of criticising everyone who thinks Boris has done badly on this occasion. Then you start making light of it and mocking my comments.
As for your 'commonly-held perception', I haven't noticed much change in behaviour around these parts. If it is different in Sussex, fine. But do note that Boris signalled a week ago he would be loosening restrictions with an announcement today, so if things have relaxed a bit in your neck of the woods that may be the reason. None of this is justifiable or good in my view.
darkwolf666
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Why is it I read that and can't help but think of this - ‘Haig is about to make yet another gargantuan effort to move his drinks cabinet six inches closer to Berlin’ from Blackadder Goes Forth...
RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
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Nope. Someone's going to have to explain that one. Is it Blind Date? Is that Phil Mitchell at the front? I don't understand it at all.
We shall have to disagree about the need to improve the old slogan with a new weaker one. I said the old slogan was fine and the new one isn't. There is nothing contradictory about that. You then made comments about people politicizing their reaction to the slogan change, which is a lazy way of criticising everyone who thinks Boris has done badly on this occasion. Then you start making light of it and mocking my comments.
To butt in, I think things have relaxed for a sizeable undercurrent because they have lockdown fatigue, as well as the inevitable f*ck rules brigade having grown in confidence.
Genuinely meant non-politically, I think those groupings would’ve started to ignore lockdown laws, no matter the government messaging or non-messaging. It’d be a miracle if almost every Brit paid attention to ministers and scientists, some people are just thick and/or arrogant and/or belligerent.
In hindsight, I wish our country had gone down the route of a stricter lockdown, properly enforced. Some of the countries that did that have impressively reduced their covid numbers, so much so that they’re easing lockdown and for example have opened discussions with other nations about mutual tourism resuming in July.
Garry Nelson's teacher
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"Four legs good, two legs bad."
Exactly.
Has anyone actually said we need no slogan at all? The problem is that by changing the slogan the government is signalling to the nation. The question is what is it signalling......green for go, and 'nuance'?
I liked the old slogan. Making a change to it is meant to be a powerful signal to the nation, surely? Why else do it?
So, may I ask, what does 'Stay alert' actually mean to you?
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Which was changed to 'Four legs good, two legs also good' after the revolution - no longer a slogan of war but the propaganda of betrayal
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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Half the amount of deaths as USA but that means nothing as they're about 50 times the size of us. So basically the worst country in the world that has dealt with this.
Gov
"F*** um, get them back to work and give them a new slogan."
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"F*** um, get them back to work and give them a new slogan."
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I suppose it won’t. Getting away from pinning everything on politicians/scientists, to the real world of personal responsibility, the UK landscape I picture in two or three weeks time is:
3/4 of folk complying with the new rules.
1/4 doing whatever the feck they want.
I hope that the latter don’t screw things for everyone else. That would mean a marked second covid wave, and prolonging restrictions on living for everyone whilst many other nations reap the many benefits of doing it properly.