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[Football] Which three teams will be relegated this season
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Not Andy Naylor
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Palace aren't in any danger. They can't score goals at home because they don't have the personnel to open packed defences but they'll get more than enough points on the road, and score lots of goals from penalties.
I'm hoping Southampton go down and here there's a genuine chance because their central defenders are individually so poor. Yoshida, Vestergaard, Stephens, Bednarek - are there four worse defenders anywhere in the top division now that Damien Delaney has given up and become a dustman, or something more suited to his abilities? That doesn't cost them so much away from home, where the team gets lots of players behind the ball, but they get badly exposed in home matches where the onus is on them to attack. They haven't won at home since April as a result.
That may improve in the next few games, as they have those noted road warriors Everton, Watford, Norwich and West Ham coming up at St Mary's, but if decent results in those games paper over the cracks and they don't buy in January as a result, they could be in dire trouble.
Uh_huh_him
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But they have played all 3 promoted teams., 2 at home.
There are decent reasons to think their current position is not reflective of their performances. ( Lack of goals, Missed penalty by Utd, dodgy Var decision against Villa, Favourable VAR decisions against Arsenal)
But...... Palace will stay up. Unfortunately.
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I chose Burnley because they are a team that is built on organisation and hard work. A team greater than the sum of its parts. Similar to us under Hughton and Pulis's Stoke and West Brom teams. There comes a time when the standards slip, not by much but by enough. And when they do they're in trouble. There isn't a player in their team who you can look to to carry them if things aren't going well. When the team breaks down all your left with is the constituent parts which aren't that impressive. What follows is relegation.
Sooner or later, for whatever reason, Burnley will break down. And when they do, they'll get relegated. Dyche has been there for seven or eight years now(i think...) so to my mind the break down is coming sooner rather than later. So why not this year? I don't actually have them as favourites for the bottom three but I wouldn't be surprised to see them there come the end of the season.
I think both Everton and West Ham have enough individual quality to keep them out of the relegation zone. They might be mostly rubbish but they both possess individuals who can win games on their own. Ultimately that should be enough to keep them up. If it isn't, oh well!
Joey'The Bull'Gambino
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Watford/Norwich/Either Southampton or Newcastle.
I see Dyche's Burnley on par with Pulis's Stoke and BFS's Bolton teams - comfortably mid-table but as soon as the manager leaves, there's trouble.
You're right that Burnley haven't got outstanding players but Dyche will terrify them enough to keep fighting. Yes, Everton and West Ham have got talented players but I'm really not convinced that they have the players or the managers to scrap it out.
I remember West Ham getting relegated when they had Carrick, Joe Cole, Di Canio, David James, Trevor Sinclair, Defoe, Don Hutchison and Winterburn playing for them - I bet they thought they had enough talented players to stay up.
They really are a terrible set of centre backs. Literally, we have four centre backs in our current squad, better than their best one. It is an astonishing recruitment failure on their part, and one that as a (local) seasoned Saints watcher, I had personally flagged up to Saints fan mates a couple of years ago.
A little further amusement, is that Saints released from their academy, two of the brightest centre back prospects in the country, in Tyrone Mings (too small!) and Ben White (not good enough).
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BRIGHT ON Q
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Good job we have to play you soon to keep our points ticking over.
Perkino
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I always consider goal difference to be a huge indicator of someone's likely final positions. Watford -17, Southampton -17, Norwich -15, are all quite different from the next set of Newcastle -8, Everton -6, Burnley -4, Crystal Palace -4. Obviously freak results can impact this and so can a fixture against Man City or Liverpool but in 2 matches time we will be more than a third of the way through the season and habits are bad to break especially when your habit is conceading sloppy goals and individuals making mistakes. interestingly the bottom 4 all seem to play against each other over the next month so we may well see some closing the gap and others being left behind
227 BHA
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Whereas your manager has nothing but experience. Decades of it in fact. Shame that’s all he has, I’d much rather a young forward thinking progressive manger like ours than an over-experienced old dinosaur like yours.
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To be fair to War Ammer Woy, he took over with them rooted firmly to the bottom of the league, and got them 11th and 12th place finishes, steering well clear of relegation under his stewardship picking up 29 wins over 2 seasons effectively. He's hardly spent any money either. Not bad for a dinosaur.
Se20
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Give me an experienced manager any day of the week.
When you have a run of bad results, and you will, will Potter have the minerals to deal with it ?
Looking at the logical candidates, I think you can immediately discount Palace (unfortunately) and Sheffield Utd. Both are far too well organised, and, in Sheffield United’s case, play good attacking football. I would also discount Villa, who are beginning to gel, and have a decent manager. Bournemouth will possibly flirt with the lower reaches of mid-table, but will be ok. Burnley seem more vulnerable this season, and could easily end up around 15th/16th.
Taking the “surprise” under-performers, I’d love to see Everton go down, but their squad is good and they will almost certainly change manager in December if things still look dodgy, plus spend big in the transfer window. West Ham are difficult to call - but they almost certainly have too much quality to be serious relegation candidates.
So, if you discount the Albion, this leaves 3 from 4....Norwich looked really poor against us - virtually no threat up front, and too many defensive mistakes. They would be my favourites for 20th. Southampton are also extremely average - even if they change manager. I reckon they are in real danger. Watford have been poor for virtually the whole of 2019....not sure why this will change.
And the fourth in this bunch is Newcastle - they don’t create much, and have a pretty average manager who will likely NOT get the sack.
Taking the “surprise” under-performers, I’d love to see Everton go down, but their squad is good and they will almost certainly change manager in December if things still look dodgy, plus spend big in the transfer window. West Ham are difficult to call - but they almost certainly have too much quality to be serious relegation candidates.
So, if you discount the Albion, this leaves 3 from 4....Norwich looked really poor against us - virtually no threat up front, and too many defensive mistakes. They would be my favourites for 20th. Southampton are also extremely average - even if they change manager. I reckon they are in real danger. Watford have been poor for virtually the whole of 2019....not sure why this will change.
And the fourth in this bunch is Newcastle - they don’t create much, and have a pretty average manager who will likely NOT get the sack.
Good question.......but he’s shown a fair pair so far though in binning off two strikers and one of our best players over the last few seasons, and chucking ‘kids’ into the team whilst completely changing the team’s approach.
I wonder if this was on another club's forum, how many would have the Albion in the relegation places? Are we still flying under the radar?
Funny thing both Hogdson & Potter revolutionised Swedish football in two complete opposite directions.
I respect both though. Saying Hodgson "only got experience" is bullshit though, he has performed great in a lot of jobs and his teams are always difficult to beat even if they generally play boring football and draw a lot.
Machiavelli
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Little to dispute here
. This year hopefully it is Palace. The other two Norwich and Southampton.Agreed