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Not everybody leaves school with 12 GCSE A* exam results. You can still be reasonably intelligent but don't get the opportunity to go to college or university. These blokes are doing a job , if they didn't give a toss they would be enjoying a life on benefits and taking it easy.

We lost all of those in 1983 , a year before BT was privatised :cry: There were some good "wrinkles" until they were stopped :smile:

Yeah , talking at cross purposes :lol:

I was talking about the current strike. The 2 day action last month was unofficial and started on the day the pay review was revealed to the binmen and the council gave notice of a 90 day consultation period.

How can the strike be unofficial when the GMB has held a ballot with 95% voting in favour and given the council the legally required notice ???

Well done , you will now be treated with utmost respect from others with your post count going into 4 figures :lol:

So the council basically wants to lump the binmen in with the dinner ladies instead of clerical assistants ?

Your "more challenged" colleagues will be doing their conkers after a while and moaning about not being able to take redundancy because they cannot reach the productivity targets :lolol:

Once RM is privatised the sh*t will really hit the fan.

This cuts both ways , the Greens won't come out of this smelling of roses.

If you sacked all the existing workers there wouldn't be any need for the new terms. The new terms would be replaced with new new terms.

9 Green councillors have signed an open letter showing their support for the binmen and Caroline Lucas visited the picket line yesterday. This dispute seems to be a major issue not only for the council as a whole but on the sidelines as a power struggle with the Greens.

There has been consultation , the council and the union cannot reach a settlement. What is the union supposed to do if the council won't make any concessions and want to implement the contract changes ? The union has balloted for industrial action (can also mean working to the correct procedures...

Without knowing if the hourly rate is being cut to bring them into line with other council workers its difficult to draw a conclusion.

O2 call centre workers are in a similar situation to the binmen. The work they do has been outsourced to Capita in a 10 year deal but Capita is only guaranteeing the existing pay rate for 2 years. They currently earn £10 an hour but Capita only pay their UK staff £7 an hour. 2 out of the 5 call...

It all depends on the individual. I work in retail and have a part time hours contract which means any overtime I do is paid at single rate. I don't get paid any extra working at weekends and on bank holidays get time and a half. I am a union member but my employer has no national recognition...

So if your employer decided to cut your wages to maintain their profit margin would you go along with that ? Would you be happy if your workload doubled because of job cuts after a "downsizing exercise" ?