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Possibly but how do we know what the price would now be given the required investment over the years if the utilities hadn't been privatised ? Hard one to call really.

And yet supermarkets will make more than that out of most people every month. When you go out for a meal ( and I know you like doing that :p ) the chef will be aiming for 85% GP. I'm really not sure that energy firms making that much money is excessive compared to profits of other companies most...

Obviously my very clear statement of "I'm ONLY referring to the post you quoted" passed you by in your red mist !

I'm ONLY referring to the post you quoted - how is she a muppet ? Show any British government in modern history that had a majority of the vote ?

Watch the BBC news and the ITN news - as good as identical. So either ITV is "leftie" as well or you're talking absolute balderdash !

About the same as any winning party ! Party 2005 2001 1997 1992 1987 1983 1979 % Popular vote % Popular vote % Popular vote % Popular vote % Popular vote % Popular vote % Popular vote Conservative Party 30.65 31.7 30.7 41.9 42.2 42.4 43.9 Labour Party 35.24 40.7 43.2 34.4 30.8...

There is a simple answer to that - don't invade another country's land and you don't get your warships sunk !

@DavidinSouthampton - sorry forgot to mention the stupid Ofsted scores in my post. If @pork pie is really that stupid to judge schools on Ofsted scores then I pity any children he has !

Good grief - you suggest teachers have a political agenda and shouldn't be allowed to teach based on it and then suggest allowing parents to educate their children about history based on their political agenda. I believe the holocaust ( and everything about the second world war ) should be...

Agree completely with your post ( especially the bit underlined ! ) With regards the history bit - it somewhat depends on how you teach it - here's what Baker suggests leaving out which I totally disagree with ! Stop teaching about the holocaust so that children see Germany in a better light...

I'd always given you the benefit of the doubt but this diatribe is unbelievable ! Agreed but where do those guidelines and standards stop ? For example, I'm a strong believer that we should teach all children about the first and second world wars ( and the causes leading up to them ) to try...

Agreed but I'm not sure what the answer is - do we allow teachers / schools / LEAs teach what they want to teach or ensure that all school children get taught the same thing via a centralised curriculum that's open to political manipulation ?

Not really - no.

Out of interest, does this mean you think anyone who supported Saville's charity work was involved in his crimes or at least condoned them ? Or is it just some pathetic politic rant ?

Agreed - inappropriate selection of words ! A little different from ALBION28 's post ! Baker, her education secretary, wanted to ban teaching about Nazis in history as well but it's hardly the banning of teaching history.

Well a search of Google doesn't back up your statement - she tried to ban teaching and promotion about homosexuality ( incorrectly in my mind ) but no mention of history being banned.

You might of been a teacher BUT when she was elected I was at school and in education until 1988 - every year during that time I studied ...... History !

OK, it might have been a bad example as I compared paying for a service to paying for a product. Let's take a service you buy ( other than one from a council ) - are you charged based on your property value no - when a plumber comes to fix something he doesn't charge you based on your property...

I'm scared now - I actually agree with you ! That said, I can't work out what that alternative could be.

Given it costs no more to collect the rubbish from a £1m house than say a £150k one why should everyone not pay the same for the same service ? When I go into Tescos they don't charge me based on my income or house value. That said Council Tax is equally unfair - house value doesn't necessarily...