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As did Defoe

I'd say England are punching above their weight. We're reaching the quarter finals of tournaments and going out to decent opposition, isn't that what England have pretty much always done? Under Keegan and Taylor we'd either go out in the first round or not qualify. You can't say there hasn't...

I actually quite rated Hoddle but his man management skills were poor and he was a bit of a - for want of a better word - crackpot.

That's another thing I can't stand about you, always belittling me in front of the others. (yes, best we do...)

You know why I had to turn it down, I'd miss £1.50 a drink night down at the Event and you really irritate me when you leave your socks laying around.

Not sure to be honest.... I thought Uncle B was our resident statto, he can check :D

Yeah, Portuguese league/cup? He's won something with every club he's been at. That's what most people don't seem to understand. Do they honestly believe the FA decided to hire some unknown Swedish quantity one day and pay him £5 Mill a year?! Look at his track record!

True - in the days when the UEFA Cup was actually a valued competition as well

He also won Lazio their first ever Scudetto (correct me if I'm wrong - might have been their first in 50 years or so?) which is the equivalent of Aston Villa winning the Premiership now.

Sebastian the lobster's an annoying kunt though

Would love Mourinho in charge but sadly it'll never happen. Until then we'll just have to settle for the man Chelsea wanted ahead of him and Man United sought to replace the most successful manager in their history - poor us :rolleyes:

I'm so going to get the sack :jester:

You being serious? We fielded our D team out there and still beat them. They're pants.

Why is everyone claiming Carrick is some sort of saviour when he's played two good games for England against er, USA and Colombia? Granted he's doing well for Spurs but he hasn't really proved himself at international level yet.

He was awful at the pens too, never even dived the right way for one

Still been removed from the squad though - doubt we'll see either of them wear an England shirt again too.

Like James and G.Johnson did?

Who honestly gives a flying doo dah about friendlies? Because the players don't

You'd know all about square pegs in round holes eh? Sorry - I forgot we have our own thread for this now.

The way I saw it it was a very good England side playing in the totally wrong formation against a piss poor Wales side. Still think 4-4-2 is for us IF we can get Gerrard and Lampard in the side together to work.