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ones a teenage girl - ones a grown man. which is more cringe ?

A little more to say on the matter... 1 > I'm pretty sure this what we were restricted to. 2> Prentendence numbers don't really count now do they ?

I don't think that being in favour of confronting racists makes you a "leftie" - to me it just makes you decent. Even without opposition the EDL have been shown to behave in an aggressive, confrontational, racist manner. I can understand the thinking behind just ignoring them an they'll go away...

I don't think it started off that way but it seems to have been fairly flooded by racist bigots. Aren't there certain things we should oppose ? I don't see it as imposing a world view by standing up against racism.

I guess I don't necessarily support their methods (as a default way to deal with the EDL) but I do agree entirely with opposing fascism in all it;s forms.

Opposing racists , xenaphobes , homophobes etc .... is not similar to the Nazi's breaking up political meetings .....no. IMO Nor is your Spanish parallel particularly valid either.

Anyone who see's Fascists and Anti Fascists in the same light should be transported to 1930's Germany.

great post . you don't have to be a "far leftie" to see the EDL for what it is and show your opposition. for what it's worth - i'd rather have a group of anti fascists walking my streets than a group of fascists - each to their own though.....

utter scum indeed. 16yrs for taking some young blokes life away from him ? 25-30 would seem more appropriate at a minimum. Hopefully the parole board will knock it back.

I stand corrected .... so it was ONLY 31 years you were in the bottom 2 tiers .......

I don't think it's actually the Palace fans "getting their knickers in twist" .....is it ?

LOL You need some new material. You do realise that we (the fans) paid St Johns ....don't you ? anyway , didn't mean to digress from Mothy's dodgy Premier League sandwiches ..... apologies.

not as long as the mighty Brighton has spent outside the TOP TWO divisions ......

A Brighton fan in a Premiership ground ......... just doesn't sound right.

Shame it bdidn't happen years ago when Pacquiao was at his best - Mayweather has waited until he slowed down enough.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather

<BUMP> (sometime 2019 ....... or May 2015)

"Champagne Socialist" is a term often bandied about by "working class Tories" . A bitter irony if ever there was one.

he won 3 in 25 before a brief purple patch. he did make some great signings and give opportunity to some of the young crop - true. he's still tactically inept and very very boring.