- Nov 15, 2006
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Getting out of Palace is like escaping from a jail, very few manage it.
[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League
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kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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I think the fact they are playing in the Europa rather than the Conference will have an impact. If you are playing the minnows in the Conference League, you can afford to put out a second XI (with some first teamers on the bench), in which case it shouldn't affect your league form too much. But in the Europa, you really need to field your first team. That's at least six extra fixtures they'll have next season.
We saw ourselves how the extra fixtures/potential for injuries etc affected our form. After all, even Palace finished above us
- Apr 5, 2014
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Well, Eze, maybe. In fact, more than maybe.
nicko31
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The good thing for us next season is half the PL are in Europe and some shouldn't be there. Hopefully we can capitaliseI think the fact they are playing in the Europa rather than the Conference will have an impact. If you are playing the minnows in the Conference League, you can afford to put out a second XI (with some first teamers on the bench), in which case it shouldn't affect your league form too much. But in the Europa, you really need to field your first team. That's at least six extra fixtures they'll have next season.
We saw ourselves how the extra fixtures/potential for injuries etc affected our form. After all, even Palace finished above us
mile oak
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- May 21, 2023
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WHY wouldn't CP qualify for Europe?
Sorry to correct you woody, but Olise left last summer, and won the German league with Bayern
But when we finished above you the previous season, league positions counted for nothing. Which is it? Do league positions matter or not? Or do they only matter when you finish higher?
OK I stand corrected, but if Textor owns less than 50% then he is not the majority shareholder. Again, I am prepared to be corrected, but I thought the rule was that the owner had to be the majority shareholder in more than 1 club, so no trying to argue our way out of it, simply abiding by the rules
Who said league positions don't matter?
Everyone I know was considerably less than happy that you managed to scrape your lower-half arses above us in the final reckoning last season.
There were mitigating circumstances - terrible injuries, the burden of Thursday-Sunday football and Roberto De Zerbi giving up, but the table doesn't lie: over the course of the season you were better than us.
Normal service has resumed this season, and I fully expect it to be the same this time next year, whether UEFA allow you in - giving you that same Thursday-Sunday headache - or not.
We're simply a lot better than you right now.
A look at the respective trophy cabinets would suggest otherwise, but if you say so...
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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No. The UEFA multi club ownership rules are having more than 30% of shares in more than one club. Textor currently has 45% of shares in Palace and approx 78% of shares in Lyon.
I love people who are prepared to argue when they have very little grasp of the situation. It really isn't hard to find the facts especially as anyone who posts on here would have access to a wealth of information from searching the web.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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In a Premier League takeover, a shareholding of 25% or more in a club is considered control, according to Premier League and EFL regulations. US businessman John Textor's Eagle Football Group owns 45% of Crystal Palace and a controlling stake in Olympique Lyonnais.
So, Palace will be scrambling behind the scenes to make this happen. But it will surely take time, and there are already rumours of a fallout between Parish and Textor. To excel in the Europa League Palace will need to improve their squad, and so prospective players will want a guarantee that Palace ARE in Europe. Any lingering doubt could delay recruitment in, and also be a push factor for players leaving.
I read Finance expert Stefan Borson told Football Insider that Textor’s corporate activity plans could cause an issue if he decides to put either club into a blind trust.
“If he has indirect influence, and it is defined in Article 5 of the Uefa rules that it needs to be significant. It’s not just that you happen to be a shareholder, so you would have to have significant influence over certain aspects of Crystal Palace for this to bite.
“Then the issue is going to be around what his plans are. He seems to have a lot of corporate plans for Crystal Palace and for Eagle.
“He talks about how he’d like to take his stake up in Crystal Palace or he’d like to sell it completely, and how he wants to IPO in New York the whole Eagle Holdings business that sits above Lyon and Crystal Palace.
“Now, none of the teams that have done a blind trust deal, so City with Girona, Nottingham Forest with Olympiacos, and Manchester United with Nice, none of those situations have had the interested party also at the same time saying that he wants to do some corporate activity.
“Because to do corporate activity, he’s going to need the influence and control to remain. He can’t put it into a blind trust and then do the IPO because he’d end up changing what the proposition is for the investors.
So it's you that's saying league position counts for nothing? Gotcha.
Palace won a trophy this season, but Arsenal didn't. By your reckoning, Palace are the better side, it seems.
Cruise Control
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- May 28, 2025
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Absolutely hilarious a lot of you saying you are a much better side than us! Take off your Brighton rose tinted specs guys! Yes, you finished higher in the league than us but that's because we started awful in the first 8 games as we had sold key players and didnt have the replacements match ready + 7 of our players were knackered from Euros, Copa America and the Olympics! Once we got our best 11 out on the pitch we were the better side - 30 games and we out points scored you by 4 points overall. We also beat you twice, once with 9 men, 5-2 on aggregate, we've also won a major trophy this season, you didn't, and we didn't get hammered 7-0 by anyone! It's not even close!
Isn't it a minimum of 8 fixtures before the knockout phase?I think the fact they are playing in the Europa rather than the Conference will have an impact. If you are playing the minnows in the Conference League, you can afford to put out a second XI (with some first teamers on the bench), in which case it shouldn't affect your league form too much. But in the Europa, you really need to field your first team. That's at least six extra fixtures they'll have next season.
We saw ourselves how the extra fixtures/potential for injuries etc affected our form. After all, even Palace finished above us
nicko31
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After getting favourable refereeing in the cup final, they now want favourable refereeing from UEFA
Seems they'll try and play the Parish card, ie say Textor has no say in running the club.
Grubby but they'll probably get away with it
Crystal Palace to be banned from Europa League? Top source reacts
Football Insider has heard from Keith Wyness on the potential for Crystal Palace to be barred from playing Europa League football next term.
What is interesting is Textor's management of Lyon. Could their debt drag him down?After getting favourable refereeing in the cup final, they now want favourable refereeing from UEFA
Seems they'll try and play the Parish card, ie say Textor has no say in running the club.
Grubby but they'll probably get away with it
Crystal Palace to be banned from Europa League? Top source reacts
Football Insider has heard from Keith Wyness on the potential for Crystal Palace to be barred from playing Europa League football next term.www.footballinsider247.com
Green Cross Code Man
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Pompey won the cup by 'adventurous' financing. Didn't make them good.
5Ways Gull
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The last 2 outliers (e.g not one of the big 6) to win the cup have been Wigan in 2013 who were already relegated and have shown absolutely no sign of getting back to the top flight and Leicester in 2021, who were relegated end of the 22/23 season, came back for a season and were absolutely shocking. In both instances those cup wins feel like a distant memory. Think Leeds will make a good fist of it next season and I have a funny feeling Sunderland may be ok as well.
Palace need to keep hold of Eze and Glasner in particular along with likes of Guehi, Wharton, Munoz. Otherwise
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Could see Glasner, if he gets one of the big Europe club jobs, wanting to take some players with him.
Palace need to keep hold of Eze and Glasner in particular along with likes of Guehi, Wharton, Munoz. Otherwise
? Could see Glasner, if he gets one of the big Europe club jobs, wanting to take some players with him.