[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

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raymondo

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fly high said:
On the news last night it was reported
"Zelensky said Moscow was "amassing" over 50,000 troops along the Sumy front, where Russian forces have seized several villages across the Ukrainian border in an effort to create what Putin calls "security buffer zones".

Sumy governor Oleh Hryhorov said Russian forces had seized four villages and that fighting was continuing near other settlements in the area."

If Ukraine knows they are there ready to attack why can't it take them out before that? Ukraine has been told it can attack ant military base to defend itself so why not just do it.
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Like you, it's a mystery to me. I'm no military strategist but would love to have it explained.
Perhaps Zelenskiy presents it this way to hope to receive more weaponry 🤔 (good if he does).
 


















The Clamp

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peterward said:
Budanov has said they will be like Mossad and go after the perpetrators of war crimes indefinitely. "They'll never be any hiding place" etc

Even if the guns on main front stop and war is officially over/paused, can virtually guarantee the hybrid actions of destabilisation won't stop, and assassinations will continue.
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There will be repercussions from this invasion for a hundred years.
 






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raymondo

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Best way to not lose more people is to move back behind your border. Good to hear anger on their front lines though

Edit. Something wrong with Twatter.
Russian officer on front line said their loss of life is madness, they should stop offensive action.
 














fly high

fly high

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Binney on acid said:
Sickening, but sadly predictable.
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I read that too. Like other so called sanctions which have recently been talked about. The West really seems to have had a half hearted approach while protecting their own economies. They still don't seem to have got it through heads, we are at war with Russia and need to do everything in our power to stop them, not just stop them but defeat them.
 










Eric the meek

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Bodian said:
'becomes a condition'? Hasn't it always been one of Putin's aims/conditions?
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There it is again. Nato. Specifically, Nato expansion.

'I think it's a fair concern'. Jesus. He is voicing empathy for Russia. That's surrender.

For Kellogg to raise this, seemingly unprompted, I'm guessing that there have been discussions going on in private between Russia and the US.
 


fly high

fly high

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Eric the meek said:
There it is again. Nato. Specifically, Nato expansion.

'I think it's a fair concern'. Jesus. He is voicing empathy for Russia. That's surrender.

For Kellogg to raise this, seemingly unprompted, I'm guessing that there have been discussions going on in private between Russia and the US.
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I always thought he at least understood Ukrainians position and very disappointed he is spouting Russian bollocks. Unless the US wants to 100% guarantee Ukrainians sovereignty without it joining NATO then they must be able to join so the rest of us can defend them. This also helps us defend ourselves. When will the US and the rest of NATO get it through their thick skulls, Russia doesn't want any of those countries to join because they want to be able to send in their army unhindered. It knows NATO will never attack it but will defend each other.
 
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