[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

WATFORD zero · Friday at 9:35 AM

Weststander said:
Starmer’s Labour in opposition from the Truss period onwards, just had to avoid faux pas to seal a GE win, no need for detailed policies. Similarly Farage can now play that tactic due to this seismic UK change. Woefully inadequate new housing numbers for 30 years and little new infrastructure, have created a nation with an unaffordable future for folk 20 to 40 who lack wealthy parents gifting them an average now of £56k per kid.

I wonder how many of those repeating Farage's tropes on here about 'mass, unlimited, soaring, sky-high, unchecked' immigration could put their finger on the point that they think the problem started.

And I wonder what Farage was actually saying needed doing to 'resolve' immigration at that time :shootself

nicko31 · Friday at 9:39 AM

WATFORD zero said:
I wonder how many of those repeating Farage's tropes on here about 'mass, unlimited, soaring, sky-high, unchecked' immigration could put their finger on the point that they think the problem started.

And I wonder what Farage was actually saying to them at the time

Reform OWN IT, they didn't like young Euro types coming over for a few years and put the Tories in power

Permanent migration from poor countries far away with the relos in tow is far better

TomandJerry · Friday at 9:42 AM

BadFish said:
This is the nub of most arguments about asylum seekers.

Stop the boats - make then someone else's problem.

As I mentioned previously you never see the asylum seeker numbers compared with other countries.

I think I have been misunderstood, I'm trying to express my opinion that we should be seeking foreign policies using our soft power to help stabilise the countries where migrants are coming from.

I don't want them to be other people's problem, and it's not about comparing numbers

TomandJerry · Friday at 9:45 AM

BadFish said:
Do they not have asylum policies?

Edit: a quick squiz at the greens policy suggests that it is far closer to TomandJerrys beliefs than Reforms.

So I guess we can definately call them an alternative.

Refugee and Asylum Policy - Green Party Asylum and Migration Policy Working Group

migration.greenparty.org.uk

This nails it

"The Green Party seeks not only to provide asylum to those forced from their homes but to work towards a world in which no one has to flee their home."

BadFish · Friday at 9:46 AM

TomandJerry said:
I think I have been misunderstood, I'm trying to express my opinion that we should be seeking foreign policies using our soft power to help stabilise the countries where migrants are coming from.

I don't want them to be other people's problem, and it's not about comparing numbers

I wasn't suggesting this was your opinion.

I posted a link to the greens asylum process which contains a fair bit about improving things at the source. Which seems to fit with your ideas.

Not sure about other alternatives though.

BadFish · Friday at 9:48 AM

TomandJerry said:
This nails it

"The Green Party seeks not only to provide asylum to those forced from their homes but to work towards a world in which no one has to flee their home."

Worth checking the others' policies too, to see what they are saying.

Kuipers Supporters Club · Friday at 10:04 AM

Thunder Bolt said:
Wayne Titley, a Reform councillor for Stoke, has resigned after just 14 days, which will cause another by-election costing £10K.

Reform are good at wasting tax payers money.

Seems like the people of Stoke disagreed last night.

And …

Siân Berry: Green London Assembly member quits days after election - BBC News

Siân Berry's exit from the London Assembly means mayoral candidate Zoë Garbett will take her place.

www.bbc.co.uk

'Scandalous' Lib Dem councillor quits days after winning Edinburgh by-election

Demands have been made for Scottish Lib Dem leader Alex Cole-Hamilton to apologise after one of his councillors quit just a week after being elected.

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk

Gone in 69 days!

Labour councillor sparks costly by-election by resigning after just two months at Town Hall – without even a comment as to why

www.islingtontribune.co.uk

It happens!

TomandJerry · Friday at 10:06 AM

"Richard Tice has hinted that he wants to become chancellor if Reform UK wins the next general election"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/richard-tice-hints-chancellor-reform-government/

A1X · Friday at 10:08 AM

WATFORD zero said:
And I wonder what Farage was actually saying needed doing to 'resolve' immigration at that time

Almost certainly "do this and everything will work". It's the sort of simple answers he peddles which appeal to people who don't like thinking too hard about things.

Thunder Bolt · Friday at 10:14 AM

Kuipers Supporters Club said:
Seems like the people of Stoke disagreed last night.

Did they know last night?

A1X · Friday at 10:19 AM

TomandJerry said:
"Richard Tice has hinted that he wants to become chancellor if Reform UK wins the next general election"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/richard-tice-hints-chancellor-reform-government/

WATFORD zero · Friday at 10:22 AM

TomandJerry said:
"Richard Tice has hinted that he wants to become chancellor if Reform UK wins the next general election"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/richard-tice-hints-chancellor-reform-government/

You missed out these bits of the article

It comes after economists warned that the UK would face an “immediate and violent” sterling crisis if Mr Farage took power in 2029. Simon French, at Panmure Liberum, said that enacting Reform’s manifesto pledges would blow an £80 billion hole in the public finances.

Mr Tice also spoke on the podcast of his time in Dubai, where his partner, Isabel Oakeshott, is based. He suggested that there were elements of the city’s society, including its attitude towards law and order, that the UK should aspire to”. But pressed on the United Arab Emirates’ attitudes towards political opponents, he admitted: “No one’s saying everything’s perfect about it, but you know…”

Since he 'splits his time' between Dubai and Skegness, where he actually has full time employment as an MP (WFH anyone ?) and seems to think Dubai is wonderful, maybe he should move there permanently and take up employment there instead

nicko31 · Friday at 10:32 AM

WATFORD zero said:
You missed out these bits of the article

It comes after economists warned that the UK would face an “immediate and violent” sterling crisis if Mr Farage took power in 2029. Simon French, at Panmure Liberum, said that enacting Reform’s manifesto pledges would blow an £80 billion hole in the public finances.

Mr Tice also spoke on the podcast of his time in Dubai, where his partner, Isabel Oakeshott, is based. He suggested that there were elements of the city’s society, including its attitude towards law and order, that the UK should aspire to”. But pressed on the United Arab Emirates’ attitudes towards political opponents, he admitted: “No one’s saying everything’s perfect about it, but you know…”

Anyone heard how Oakeshott is getting on with the Arabic classes, I know she's keen to integrate

GrizzlingGammon · Friday at 10:49 AM

We seem to have plenty of Reform voters, but few who want to admit to wanting to vote Reform. We have the shy Tory, but what's the Reform equivalent?

TomandJerry · Friday at 12:56 PM

I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

nicko31 · Friday at 1:00 PM

TomandJerry said:
I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

Make me PM and I'll give my mate Donald anything he wants

WATFORD zero · Friday at 1:03 PM

TomandJerry said:
I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

You could set up a google search for "Telegraph Farage Reform" and just post a link to that, rather than having to post links to every single Telegraph article praising Farage and Reform and repeating their lies. Most of which are hidden behind a Paywall for those of us who don't subscribe to the telegraph anyway :lolol:

Thunder Bolt · Friday at 1:04 PM

TomandJerry said:
I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

Explain how Starmer has betrayed the Brexit voting Labour public. What has been agreed?

GrizzlingGammon · Friday at 1:11 PM

TomandJerry said:
I suppose things like this and using Brexit as a battering ram will resonant with people

"Farage: Make me PM and I will scrap Starmer's Brexit deal

The new reset deal is expected to include a UK-EU defence pact, concessions on fish a veterinary deal, European Court of Justice oversight and alignment to EU plant and animal health rules, and concessions on youth mobility.

Farage predicted that Sir Keir will be punished at the ballot box for betraying Brexit-voting Labour voters a week after Reform’s triumph in last week’s local elections."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

Farage sat on the EU fisheries committee, turned up once to get his wages, never turned up again. Why wasn't he there standing up for the UK fishing industry?

Maybe he can float up the Thames again. What's one more turd in that river anyway

Thunder Bolt · Friday at 1:26 PM

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