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blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
This in a nutshell.

It won't be until next year when everyone, or the vast majority are vaccinated that we see how effective it is, AND if people need top ups . . .

My moneys on the idiotic majority getting over excited about pubs/clubs opening and a mini 3rd wave at least.

Yes in terms of cases. Hopefully their age will keep them out of hospital.
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,182
Deepest, darkest Sussex
1 word

Vaccines

Three more words;

Vaccine-resistant variant.

All it takes is people to go out and start spreading one of those and suddenly we're right back in the shitter. Indeed the current Indian variant is already concerning many as possibly being so, certainly to the AZ vaccine.
 


Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
Three more words;

Vaccine-resistant variant.

All it takes is people to go out and start spreading one of those and suddenly we're right back in the shitter. Indeed the current Indian variant is already concerning many as possibly being so, certainly to the AZ vaccine.

Bore off. We've been hearing from miserablists all year. Just bore off. The evidence behind vaccinated people not getting the virus in significant numbers and not needing hospital treatment are all positive news. The continued fall of case volume is positive news. Everything is positive, except a select band who want negative news and want to scream on about the doomsday predictions. Take your miserable views somewhere else, son.
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,869
Guiseley
Bore off. We've been hearing from miserablists all year. Just bore off. The evidence behind vaccinated people not getting the virus in significant numbers and not needing hospital treatment are all positive news. The continued fall of case volume is positive news. Everything is positive, except a select band who want negative news and want to scream on about the doomsday predictions. Take your miserable views somewhere else, son.

Whilst I kind of agree with you, I see myself as a citizen of the world and therefore the bolded bit borders on offensive. Don't think I'm a miserabilist though.
 


atomised

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Mar 21, 2013
5,121
Three more words;

Vaccine-resistant variant.

All it takes is people to go out and start spreading one of those and suddenly we're right back in the shitter. Indeed the current Indian variant is already concerning many as possibly being so, certainly to the AZ vaccine.

I suspect what causes more of India's problems is the low percentage of population having had first jab and miniscule percentage that have both.
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,182
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Bore off. We've been hearing from miserablists all year. Just bore off. The evidence behind vaccinated people not getting the virus in significant numbers and not needing hospital treatment are all positive news. The continued fall of case volume is positive news. Everything is positive, except a select band who want negative news and want to scream on about the doomsday predictions. Take your miserable views somewhere else, son.

If you’d rather stick your head in the sand I’m not stopping you. But reality isn’t all happy flappy, and trying to claim it is just makes you look a fool. This is still a hugely dangerous virus and the progress we’ve made is very, very reversible in the wrong circumstances.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,990
SHOREHAM BY SEA
If you’d rather stick your head in the sand I’m not stopping you. But reality isn’t all happy flappy, and trying to claim it is just makes you look a fool. This is still a hugely dangerous virus and the progress we’ve made is very, very reversible in the wrong circumstances.

Reality in life isn’t always, in your words happy flappy...but that doesn’t mean we don’t try to be positive and we are in a far better place than this time last year and indeed summer of last year ...somewhere along the line (soon) we have to try and continue with lifting restrictions and accept that with that their will be risk ..just as their is with most things in life...and that level of risk currently is quite low ...hopefully that will continue ..I’m not sure banging on about variants is that helpful to be frank. Yes be aware of them, but not to the point that they solely determine the way ahead

:)
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
I suspect what causes more of India's problems is the low percentage of population having had first jab and miniscule percentage that have both.

That and most of the population and their local town councils couldn’t organise a piss up in brewery. It was inevitable India was going to be hit hard. The whole fabric of the nation is basically chaos and a “yah sahee rahega” attitude to life.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Reality in life isn’t always, in your words happy flappy...but that doesn’t mean we don’t try to be positive and we are in a far better place than this time last year and indeed summer of last year ...somewhere along the line (soon) we have to try and continue with lifting restrictions and accept that with that their will be risk ..just as their is with most things in life...and that level of risk currently is quite low ...hopefully that will continue ..I’m not sure banging on about variants is that helpful to be frank. Yes be aware of them, but not to the point that they solely determine the way ahead

:)

This.

Out of adversity, thanks to the genius of the global scientific community and an amazing NHS/Dept of Health vaccination programme, things in the UK are in a great place than as was and as could’ve been right now.

Israel and the UK are models for others to follow.

Being gloomy and pessimistic serves no purpose, other than to try and make people miserable.
 


Driver8

On the road...
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Jul 31, 2005
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I suspect what causes more of India's problems is the low percentage of population having had first jab and miniscule percentage that have both.

Which must be frustrating for them given they manufacture a large proportion of world wide vaccines.
 


Falmer Wizard

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Jun 23, 2020
166
The hut that serves drinks and lovely cakes at the top of Dyke Road Avenue.

We go for strolls there, just my daughter and I.

Today and every day loads of couples and extended families meet up, no distancing, no masks. Not 'chavs', just normal middle class folk who aren't going to let a nanny state stop them seeing the other families and couples they adore. Arrogance.

How long before our next Lock Down?????
No Masks, no distancing adds up to a doubtful future for many !!!!!!!
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
That and most of the population and their local town councils couldn’t organise a piss up in brewery. It was inevitable India was going to be hit hard. The whole fabric of the nation is basically chaos and a “yah sahee rahega” attitude to life.

and population density is akin to an overcrowded ants nest.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Being gloomy and pessimistic serves no purpose, other than to try and make people miserable.

Forgive me but I'd rather be pessimistic and make sure this thing works out than blindly optimistic and watch it all go pear-shaped.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
64,594
Withdean area
Forgive me but I'd rather be pessimistic and make sure this thing works out than blindly optimistic and watch it all go pear-shaped.

I’m more in a middle ground. I wasn’t blindly optimistic in April/May 2020, but hoped.

Then the vaccines were created and approved in quick time, our old folk including my parents and the vulnerable got a form of protection and Covid metrics such as death rates plummeted. I’ve been into town a few times in the last couple of weeks, shops have started to do business again, outdoor cafes and pubs have custom, it was great to see people enjoying themselves again on the seafront and Palace Pier. I’m both relieved and optimistic.
 




Wardy's twin

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Oct 21, 2014
8,494
Reality in life isn’t always, in your words happy flappy...but that doesn’t mean we don’t try to be positive and we are in a far better place than this time last year and indeed summer of last year ...somewhere along the line (soon) we have to try and continue with lifting restrictions and accept that with that their will be risk ..just as their is with most things in life...and that level of risk currently is quite low ...hopefully that will continue ..I’m not sure banging on about variants is that helpful to be frank. Yes be aware of them, but not to the point that they solely determine the way ahead

:)

Surely there is middle ground here - reduce the restrictions but remain observant to good practise - distance, masks and hand washing (certainly the latter). I think the "let's get back to December 2019 " approach is naive. To also disregard 'variants' is to ignore the truth of what will happen, the trick will be to stay away ahead of them. I, like many, am desperate to get back a more normal way of living but that does not mean to say i forget the last 16 months...
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,009
hassocks
Seeing a rise in experts talking down the vaccine and it’s efficiency, for what purpose?

Biggest covidiots of the whole thing.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
19,943
Playing snooker
Seeing a rise in experts talking down the vaccine and it’s efficiency, for what purpose?

Biggest covidiots of the whole thing.

I guess they are just managing expectations and trying to encourage people to see the vaccine as just one of a package of measures, which seems prudent. Nobody ever said it was a silver bullet and I suppose as time goes on better data will be amassed regarding it's effectiveness over the medium term. Admittedly, I don't pay a huge amount of attention but I have sensed a view along the lines of 'vaccine = immunity' which was not the message I recall the scientists ever promoting.
 


Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
Whilst I kind of agree with you, I see myself as a citizen of the world and therefore the bolded bit borders on offensive. Don't think I'm a miserabilist though.

I wasn't talking about Brazil or India. Two countries who have barely responded to the virus at all. India with their continued festivals, lack of restrictions and almost total easing of any preventative measures for months before the virus has hit them hard again. As was inevitable. Brazil aren't even worth talking about, the level of stupidity there is staggering.

In the UK the government have taken a lot of actions which haven't been popular, including with me at times. But as a country we've responded probably as well as we could have done (With a few fairly reasonable errors along the way) and now there is a positive outlook. It's not over until it's over worldwide, but our house is in order and that's all you can ask of the government.
 




crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,575
Lyme Regis
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57609274

Heartbreaking to see this, these actions would be deplorable in normal times but with social distancing regulations still in force it is disgraceful, absolutely right that all those involved should be banned for life.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,851
Burgess Hill
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57609274

Heartbreaking to see this, these actions would be deplorable in normal times but with social distancing regulations still in force it is disgraceful, absolutely right that all those involved should be banned for life.

Cheap booze and cheap tickets actively promoted to a large student cohort……….who could possibly have foreseen any problems with that ??
 


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