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[Albion] Two players taking the same corner?









Gabbafella

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Aug 22, 2012
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You can tell who is going to take the corner from where the ball is placed, so I don't see it causes that much confusion. All I see it doing is taking an extra player off the field of play potentially reducing our chance of scoring.
 


McTavish

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Nov 5, 2014
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You can tell who is going to take the corner from where the ball is placed, so I don't see it causes that much confusion. All I see it doing is taking an extra player off the field of play potentially reducing our chance of scoring.
Except that our chance of scoring increased hugely...
 


bn1&bn3 Albion

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Jan 15, 2011
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Portslade
You can tell who is going to take the corner from where the ball is placed, so I don't see it causes that much confusion. All I see it doing is taking an extra player off the field of play potentially reducing our chance of scoring.

No you can't.. Look at where the ball is placed in the screenshots posted earlier, either player can easily take it.
 




neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,245
Tyringham
What's that all about then? definitely looks like something new off the training ground, but I can't really see how it creates any confusion or gives us an advantage. Just seems like a waste of a man to me ???

just get it in the box ffs!

Football science innit...:moo:
 


neilbard

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Oct 8, 2013
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Tyringham
For one of our corners we DID have 3 players go over (I think Lallana joined the party)

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Birdie Boy

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Jun 17, 2011
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Ah but we don't nearly not score with one player.
We do nearly not score with two.

Which is better:-

Not scoring
Or
Nearly not scoring.
Nearly scoring seems slightly better than nearly not scoring to me.
I would prefer nearly scoring to not scoring. [emoji848][emoji3]
 




bn1&bn3 Albion

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Jan 15, 2011
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Having 2 players on the corner allows for 3 variations, in swinging, out swinging and short, all of which force the opposition to set up differently.

As for "wasting time in training", they are full time footballers, an extra 5 minutes on this set piece is not going to be detrimental..

How dare a team struggling for goals try something slightly different.. :ffsparr:
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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town full of eejits
without reading any of the rest its a no from me , Potter might be trying to evolve the game but considering how many set pieces we concede from i think the penny should drop and we need to smash these corners in the vicinity of the penalty area and see what happens .....short corners are a joke for us.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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So, to sum up then: you willingly reduce your team to ten men for the duration of a set piece that you you were never much cop at with eleven players on the pitch? Good luck with that one :thumbsup:
 






SEWDONIM

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Dec 14, 2020
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Symptomatic of our season so far.

We're trying to walk the ball into the box and far too often trying 'cute' little tricks that rarely ever pull off; the complexity in some of our play is often our downfall. For example, playing out from the back - teams press us and we'll pass back to our keep who lumps it back up field, lose possession then on the back foot. It happens with Ryan and it happened against Sanchez last night.

I hate the term "back to basics" but we really do need to get back to them in order to build the momentum going forward. We do look devoid of ideas and confidence half the time.
 


SittingbourneSeagull

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Dec 27, 2007
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Opposition players don't know whether it's going to be inswinging or outswinging.

Worth a go, seeing as all our other corners have been shite all season.

They do because the player that took the kick each time always put their hand up before they took it to indicate what was happening. And everyone was an out swinger.
 




GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Whatever way you view them, last night's corners were a distinct upgrade on the tried and tested short corner back-to-Ryan-in-6-passes routine.
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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So, to sum up then: you willingly reduce your team to ten men for the duration of a set piece that you you were never much cop at with eleven players on the pitch? Good luck with that one :thumbsup:

Trossard/March aren't going to win a header anyway.

The fact they are both there draws at least one defender, probably two out from the middle.

It also gives us the option to play short.

It's a positive move. I want to see us do more of it. It also shows GP is thinking out of the box to counteract our weaknesses
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Trossard/March aren't going to win a header anyway.

The fact they are both there draws at least one defender, probably two out from the middle.

It also gives us the option to play short.

It's a positive move. I want to see us do more of it. It also shows GP is thinking out of the box to counteract our weaknesses

On the other hand, the opposition defence must be pissing themselves laughing. Just makes for an even easier day at the office :lol:
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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On the other hand, the opposition defence must be pissing themselves laughing. Just makes for an even easier day at the office :lol:

No. As others have said, they are having to be more on their toes as they have no idea if it will be swinging in inwards or outwards.

Our boys will know, as undoubtedly there's a signal in there somewhere.

It's a clear advantage
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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No. As others have said, they are having to be more on their toes as they have no idea if it will be swinging in inwards or outwards.

Our boys will know, as undoubtedly there's a signal in there somewhere.

It's a clear advantage

And as somebody else said on here, if it's that hotshot an idea, why not have three players take the corner? Or four? Or eleven?
 


blue-shifted

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Feb 20, 2004
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And as somebody else said on here, if it's that hotshot an idea, why not have three players take the corner? Or four? Or eleven?

Because people don't have three feet.

Christ, it can't be that hard.

The possibility or there being an inswinger or an outswinger means that the defenders are less able to anticipate how to defend.

A third person wouldn't improve this as there isn't a third way of swinging the ball in.

This principle has been used on free kicks for ages. It's rarer on corners, but not unheard of. GP has rightly seen that we're too predictable (as evidenced by the fact that 95% of our corners this season have been cleared unchallenged) and tried to do something different.

There's a similar principle at play in spin bowling in cricket. If you have a spinner who can genuinely get the ball to spin either way, it's a massive threat as you can't prepare a defence in the same way as when you can predict the movement of the ball
 


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