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[Albion] Jayson Molumby







Worthing exile

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May 12, 2009
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FFS what is it with Potter that any young CM trying to break through has to play RB first? First Alzate, then Molumby and now Sanders! And it'll be a shame if Molumby's stuck out on the right too.

Also feel sorry for Yapi. Everybody else gets tried before him
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Also feel sorry for Yapi. Everybody else gets tried before him

Scratched record o'clock:-

'If we can't trust GPott with his use of the kidz, who can we trust?'
 


Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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I don't know how you can possibly think that without entertaining the idea that JM wants to go back out on loan to finish his apprenticeship.

Or what is actually the most likely scenario.

The club and player recognise JM is good enough to be part of the Premier League squad but not yet good enough to walk straight in.

So a further and final year on loan, with him staying on his current trajectory, all but guarantees him a starting place as the club sells Alzate off for £40m.
An owners dream.


Does that sound at all familiar to you, any of it, any of it at all?

No I dont know what he's thinking, but I do know he's had a great season, capped by his country and he's has been overlooked. Sending him out on loan, isn't giving him a chance. Maybe he will get one at some point. But if he does go out on loan I dont think it's a very positive message that we're sending to the youth players thats all.
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
With the govts announcement of 6 months of restrictions, it’s unlikely that the crowds will return to the Amex this season certainly not at anywhere near full capacity .

As a club we are likely to lose around £40 million on gate receipts and share of gate receipts for cup games .

As such I suspect we will be looking to save money where we can . Allowing Stephens to go for a fee of between 1-2 million also saves his wages of around £2 M for this season .

Promoting Molumby who deserves a chance based on his ability anyway would save the club money .

I suspect we will persist with March in his new role unless a very good value alternative is found . That will also save money both for the transfer fee plus another £2-2.5 m salary .

We may still get a striker but I suspect the fee won’t be over £15 m if we wish to continue being prudent in these unprecedented times .

In my humble opinion we are good enough to stay up with the squad we have albeit another decent striker would give us the chance to improve on last season .

Where did you get 40m on gate receipts from? From memory, it's not even half that.

Agree with the rest of what you've written mind.
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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I suppose apart from Jayson Molumby himself who want's game time there could also be influence from his agent and the Irish manager to get him game time as well? He would be a bit wasted sitting here in the background waiting for a chance when he could be out there gaining playing experience?
 






Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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The "development plan" is not some kind of fixed system. Even if you are good in the Championship it doesnt automatically give you a place in the first team unless you are good enough.

With Potter shipping Andone & Locadia to make room for Connolly, benching and then shipping Duffy to make room for Webster & White, starting Alzate instead of i.e. Stephens, shipping Montoya & Schelotto and go with Lamptey, as well as bringing Mac Allister into the side, I think young players know that there is a way into the team - if they are good enough.

I never said it was a fixed system or automatically gave you a starting place in the first team. BUT that it should lead to getting a chance or opportunity to play in the first team, thats not my opinion of how it should work, the club have openly said thats what it wil do. My point is sending him out loan again isnt giving him that chance, and the debatable part is what that looks like. I think it's negative some people obviously disagree.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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I suppose apart from Jayson Molumby himself who want's game time there could also be influence from his agent and the Irish manager to get him game time as well? He would be a bit wasted sitting here in the background waiting for a chance when he could be out there gaining playing experience?

Yes, there could be something in that. If only we still had the good old Football Combination, eh?
 


Stat Brother

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No I dont know what he's thinking, but I do know he's had a great season, capped by his country and he's has been overlooked. Sending him out on loan, isn't giving him a chance. Maybe he will get one at some point. But if he does go out on loan I dont think it's a very positive message that we're sending to the youth players thats all.

No of us know any of the thinking yet you seem to be able to extract an exclusively negative standpoint, despite all the anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
 






Dutch

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Aug 16, 2012
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Possibly but his earning potential, development and credentials for inclusion in the national team will be increased by playing at the highest level.

If he is pushing to return to Millwall it shows a lack of ambition IMO

Does he stay and in all likelihood warm the bench for the majority of the season or go back to Millwall and play. I want him to stay and provide depth for our central midfield ranks but it's a stretch to visualise Molumby breaking into the first team for a prolonged period. So it's probably not the ideal scenario for his development. Which is why I understand Molumby vocalising his preference to play. I don't see how wanting to play (which is the best way to 'develop') shows a lack of ambition, for me it's quite the opposite.

As fans we aren't privy to training sessions and performances therein. Nor unfortunately, are we a 'fly on the wall' for conservations between player and club. So we're speculating on limited info.

Molumby has a future playing at our club but maybe not this season. However if he has a stonker tomorrow night then, well who knows? UTA.

:bhasign:
 
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MJsGhost

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Jun 26, 2009
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Does he stay and in all likelihood warm the bench for the majority of the season or go back to Millwall and play. I want him to stay and provide depth for our central midfield ranks but it's a stretch to visualise Molumby breaking into the first team for a prolonged period. So it's probably not the ideal scenario for his development. Which is why I understand Molumby vocalising his preference to play. I don't see how wanting to play (which is the best way to 'develop') shows a lack of ambition, for me it's quite the opposite.

As fans we aren't privy to training sessions and performances therein. Nor unfortunately, are we a 'fly on the wall' for conservations between player and club. So we're speculating on limited info.

Molumby has a future playing at our club but maybe not this season. However if he has a stonker tonight then, well who knows? UTA.

:bhasign:

100% agree.

Not just a pretty face are ya?! :lol: :kiss:
 






Braggfan

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May 12, 2014
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No of us know any of the thinking yet you seem to be able to extract an exclusively negative standpoint, despite all the anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

Well the thinking that the club wanting to create a production line from academy to the first team is well documented. And a player who is following that plan, who had a great season on loan in the championship but then gets sent out on loan again, its not anecdotal to say he's been overlooked. He hasn't been given a chance yet, that is fact. And yes I think given that we promote this development path with the end goal being an opportunity, sending him out on loan gives a negative message to our academy players.
 


Johnny RoastBeef

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Jan 11, 2016
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FFS what is it with Potter that any young CM trying to break through has to play RB first? First Alzate, then Molumby and now Sanders! And it'll be a shame if Molumby's stuck out on the right too.

I remember a young Steven Gerrard starting out as a right back for Liverpool.

It's a well trodden path for young midfielders learning their trade in a less demanding position.
 


Stat Brother

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Well the thinking that the club wanting to create a production line from academy to the first team is well documented. And a player who is following that plan, who had a great season on loan in the championship but then gets sent out on loan again, its not anecdotal to say he's been overlooked. He hasn't been given a chance yet, that is fact. And yes I think given that we promote this development path with the end goal being an opportunity, sending him out on loan gives a negative message to our academy players.

Well at least we only have to (hopefully) wait 10 months to see who's get a better grasp of the situation.
 




GT49er

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I remember a young Steven Gerrard starting out as a right back for Liverpool.

It's a well trodden path for young midfielders learning their trade in a less demanding position.
Yes, young Steven Gerrard at RB rings a bell - but a well trodden path? Not so sure about that (except in Potterworld!)
 


Stat Brother

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I remember a young Steven Gerrard starting out as a right back for Liverpool.

It's a well trodden path for young midfielders learning their trade in a less demanding position.

I'm currently listening to The Tuesday Club.
Alan Davies is saying exactly the same about Wenger and Fabregas (sp)

Seemingly NSC knows better.
 


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