[Politics] Keir Starmer

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Grombleton

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What you're basically saying is you don"t like reading opinions you dont agree with ,don't worry there's a few like you floating about on here some who resort to throwing a bit of abuse into the mix , well done
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Diddums. Post something worthwhile and people might take you seriously.
 








Herr Tubthumper

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More good news for Starmer...

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Richard Burgon sacked by Sir Phoney Blair. #RichardBurgon #SirKeirStarmer #Labourreshuffle @WorkersPartyGB

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You are quite possibly the only person paying any attention to George Galloway these days.
 


Titanic

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You are quite possibly the only person paying any attention to George Galloway these days.

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DavidinSouthampton

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More good news for Starmer...

[tweet]1247098780706627584[/tweet]

George Galloway [MENTION=8966]George[/MENTION]galloway
Richard Burgon sacked by Sir Phoney Blair. #RichardBurgon #SirKeirStarmer #Labourreshuffle @WorkersPartyGB

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You are quite possibly the only person paying any attention to George Galloway these days.

I would think that what George Galloway thinks of him is top of Keir Starmer's agenda at the moment!!
 






PILTDOWN MAN

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Old people are being told they are not going to hospitals, and relatives signing Do not Resuscitate forms for them to keep ventilators for the younger people. I started a thread on it in the sub forum. It has happened in my family.
13 people in one care home in Glasgow because the old are being left to die, basically. That is on the BBC website.

Left to die, where is that written on the BBC. They reported it but have not stated left to die.

Please can you show the report/s as this could just be political posturing
 




Titanic

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** Starmer releases full shadow cabinet reshuffle details ***

Angela Rayner, Deputy Leader and Chair of the Labour Party
Anneliese Dodds, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
Lisa Nandy, Shadow Foreign Secretary
Nick Thomas-Symonds, Shadow Home Secretary
Rachel Reeves, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
David Lammy, Shadow Justice Secretary
John Healey, Shadow Defence Secretary
Ed Miliband, Shadow Business, Energy and Industrial Secretary
Emily Thornberry, Shadow International Trade Secretary
Jonathan Reynolds, Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary
Jonathan Ashworth, Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care
Rebecca Long-Bailey, Shadow Education Secretary
Jo Stevens, Shadow Digital, Culture, Media and Sport
Bridget Philipson, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Luke Pollard, Shadow Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Secretary
Steve Reed, Shadow Communities and Local Government Secretary
Thangam Debbonaire, Shadow Housing Secretary
Jim McMahon, Shadow Transport Secretary
Preet Kaur Gill, Shadow International Development Secretary
Louise Haigh, Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary (interim)
Ian Murray, Shadow Scotland Secretary
Nia Griffith, Shadow Wales Secretary
Marsha de Cordova, Shadow Women and Equalities Secretary
Andy McDonald, Shadow Employment Rights and Protections Secretary
Rosena Allin-Khan, Shadow Minister for Mental Health
Cat Smith, Shadow Minister for Young People and Voter Engagement
Lord Falconer, Shadow Attorney General
Valerie Vaz, Shadow Leader of the House
Nick Brown, Opposition Chief Whip
Baroness Smith, Shadow Leader of the Lords
Lord McAvoy, Lords’ Opposition Chief Whip
 




JBizzle

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My mother in law works in an Elderly Care Home and they have started receiving COVID patients on to a special wing because the hospitals are not giving over 70s ventilators. Whether it's "left to die" of not, it's certainly triage to help those who it's most likely to save.
 


Gwylan

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Really pleased to see Ed Miliband back in the shadow cabinet - he's a talented politician, unfairly lambasted for not being able to eat a bacon sandwich.
 






Blue Valkyrie

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Really pleased to see Ed Miliband back in the shadow cabinet - he's a talented politician, unfairly lambasted for not being able to eat a bacon sandwich.
I voted for chaos with him so it's nice to see a bit of a comeback.
 


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Really pleased to see Ed Miliband back in the shadow cabinet - he's a talented politician, unfairly lambasted for not being able to eat a bacon sandwich.

Given everything that's happened since 2015 I dread to think what all that CHAOS would have looked like.

Astonishing to remember if people didn't pick their PMs based on how they look when eating a sandwich he'd only just be coming to the end of his first full term.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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To briefly go back to the criticism of the way the Tories are handling the Covid19 response, I am sure there are many things they could do better or differently - but I am sure the same would be true of a Labour government - this isn't easy. Moreover, if there are things they have done which can be considered corrupt or ideological, which have ultimately harmed people, these things will come into the public eye and receive the attention they deserve in due course.

What I DO NOT want is for this crisis to descend into political point scoring or back and forth between the parties, because I don't think that helps anyone. I look at the USA and how their response to the crisis is fatally mired in political partisanship and egos and refusals to compromise their long-held hatred of the other side. Down that route lies an awful lot of avoidable deaths.

The only way through this is to have a single response that we all get behind, because there will be plenty of time to review it all later. I say this as someone who will never vote Tory and has no respect for Boris Johnson as a government minister or leader. But we should play the partisanship game once all this has calmed down.
 


stewart12

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I like the look of that Shadow Cabinet I must say
 




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To briefly go back to the criticism of the way the Tories are handling the Covid19 response, I am sure there are many things they could do better or differently - but I am sure the same would be true of a Labour government - this isn't easy. Moreover, if there are things they have done which can be considered corrupt or ideological, which have ultimately harmed people, these things will come into the public eye and receive the attention they deserve in due course.

What I DO NOT want is for this crisis to descend into political point scoring or back and forth between the parties, because I don't think that helps anyone. I look at the USA and how their response to the crisis is fatally mired in political partisanship and egos and refusals to compromise their long-held hatred of the other side. Down that route lies an awful lot of avoidable deaths.

The only way through this is to have a single response that we all get behind, because there will be plenty of time to review it all later. I say this as someone who will never vote Tory and has no respect for Boris Johnson as a government minister or leader. But we should play the partisanship game once all this has calmed down.

What an intelligent standpoint, respect :bowdown:

There’ll be plenty of time for real experts to compare and contrast the preparation and response between western democracies in the years to come.
 


stewart12

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To briefly go back to the criticism of the way the Tories are handling the Covid19 response, I am sure there are many things they could do better or differently - but I am sure the same would be true of a Labour government - this isn't easy. Moreover, if there are things they have done which can be considered corrupt or ideological, which have ultimately harmed people, these things will come into the public eye and receive the attention they deserve in due course.

What I DO NOT want is for this crisis to descend into political point scoring or back and forth between the parties, because I don't think that helps anyone. I look at the USA and how their response to the crisis is fatally mired in political partisanship and egos and refusals to compromise their long-held hatred of the other side. Down that route lies an awful lot of avoidable deaths.

The only way through this is to have a single response that we all get behind, because there will be plenty of time to review it all later. I say this as someone who will never vote Tory and has no respect for Boris Johnson as a government minister or leader. But we should play the partisanship game once all this has calmed down.

I agree and it was good to see Keir Starmer saying that he'll work with the government (whilst holding them to account) to provide the best results for the country
 


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