[Politics] Brexit

[Thunder Bolt]

What do you know ,Maybe you should be another one running the country there's plenty on here who talk a good game
Regards
DR

That could be because we talk about facts.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

No damage limitation whatsever. Reality is the term you are looking for.

Yes ,the reality is we're leaving the club , as i said it's not all rosy as you a seem to think , i bet the EU parliament are chomping at the bit to see Nige and his other Brexit MEP's taking their seats but then again no deal sorts that one out for them
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That could be because we talk about facts.

Can you prove any of these facts , all I see are pages and pages of speculation founded on the remain biased media you cling onto
regards
DR

 

[Gwylan]

tEuro sceptics made big gains last month in the EU elections

That's a bit misleading. Yes, they did (but there were big gains from pro EU parties on the left too) but there are plenty of varieties of Euroscepticism. Not many are actually advocating leaving the EU, Italy's Lega, one of the biggest of these parties, has changed its view on this. To think that every Eurosceptic party is akin to the Brexit Party is wide of the mark

 

[daveinplzen]

Yes ,the reality is we're leaving the club , as i said it's not all rosy as you a seem to think , i bet the EU parliament are chomping at the bit to see Nige and his other Brexit MEP's taking their seats but then again no deal sorts that one out for them
regards
DR

Yeah, you said the same sort of 'reality' about leaving early in March. How did that pan out for you?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Can you prove any of these facts , all I see are pages and pages of speculation founded on the remain biased media you cling onto
regards
DR

Three posts above - facts about State aid when trading under WTO rules. You need to open your eyes instead of reading with a biased mind.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

One Greek taxi driver. I know five Greek families who don't feel that way. Greece was in a complete mess with their economy employing many public workers, and promising early retirement on pensions with money they didn't have.
That's why they needed bailing out, and to get the loans they had to change the way they ran their economy. It isn't Germany telling them what to do but a condition of the bail out.

Britain was in a similar boat in the 70s, but we had to go cap in hand to the International Monetary Fund. They also laid down conditions for our loans.

Facts eh.

Spin it how you want ,Germany are running the EU
Greece is a poorer for it, Fact
regards
DR

 

[daveinplzen]

Spin it how you want ,Germany are running the EU
Greece is a poorer for it, Fact
regards
DR

The facts are well documented. Maybe you should read them, rather than just dribbling, as usual.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That's a bit misleading. Yes, they did (but there were big gains from pro EU parties on the left too) but there are plenty of varieties of Euroscepticism. Not many are actually advocating leaving the EU, Italy's Lega, one of the biggest of these parties, has changed its view on this. To think that every Eurosceptic party is akin to the Brexit Party is wide of the mark

I never said they were akin to the Brexit party, you cant dismiss the fact that these partys have gained popularity and if they EU don't take notice I think they'll be in for a bit of a shock after we've left
regards
DR

 

[daveinplzen]

I never said they were akin to the Brexit party, you cant dismiss the fact that these parts have gained popularity and if they EU don't take notice I think they'll be in for a bit of a shock after we've left
regards
DR

Your post lost credibility when you included the words 'I think'

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Three posts above - facts about State aid when trading under WTO rules. You need to open your eyes instead of reading with a biased mind.

Seeing is believing
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Your post lost credibility when you included the words 'I think'

You don't have any credibility you don't live here
regards
DR

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seeing is believing

Trite.

 

[Gwylan]

I never said they were akin to the Brexit party,

No, but you said that the growth of the Eurosceptic parties showed that there was evidence that other countries wanted to leave. But that's just not the case, you can't conflate the rise in anti-EU parties and a desire to leave

 

[The Clamp]

This shit goes on all week.

Then why do you come on this thread you utter dweeb? You must be a very insecure little chap to be coming on here every day even though you “won”. Very odd. Then you moan that you don’t like what you read. Don’t read it then, twerp.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right.

George Orwell1984

 

[Mellotron]

It's not an argument i want to have, I just want Democracy upheld and the referendum result implemented ,& why is that a problem for you?
regards
DR

It wasn’t really an argument to be fair, I was just asking how long you think a vote should be valid for, perfectly reasonable question.

 

[The Clamp]

You don't have any credibility you don't live here
regards
DR

You want to bring up credibility? You’re a racist, a self confessed Nazi nut who doesn’t pay tax, lives off benefits and hasn’t worked an honest day in over 30 years.
Probably best to wind your neck in on the topic of credibility.
You’re another one. Why are you even on here? You claim you’re very confident we are leaving and Brexit is a good thing yet here you are, multiple times a day checking nobody is saying anything to contradict that. Hmmmm.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Hunt has promised to prop up the Farming sector with state aid. Why wouldn’t he therefore prop every other impacted sector up as well?

I think Hunt could get himself into a right pickle on this one. He either ring-fences the £x billion for farmers/fishermen in which case there will be questions asked as per yours - especially as the numbers employed in those primary sectors are relatively small. Or he 'opens it up' to other impacted sectors in which case

a) it would be an admin nightmare (where do you draw the line?)
b) the figures would be horrendous - or so negligible that there would be no mitigation
c) it raises expectations that would be impossible to meet
d) it could raise issues with regards to unfair state subsidies with...……..the WTO


This is making stuff up on the back of a fag packet IMHO.

 

[daveinplzen]

You don't have any credibility you don't live here
regards
DR

Yes I do. We live in the same place my little turnip. Its called the EU.