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[News] POLL TIME - Danny Baker’s tweet

Was Danny Baker’s Royal Baby tweet KNOWINGLY racist?

  • YES - You stupid prat, of course it was. He knew what he was inferring.

    Votes: 97 29.7%
  • NO - You utter melt, the intent wasn’t racism.

    Votes: 230 70.3%

  • Total voters
    327






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
61,474
Chandlers Ford
I would suggest that fact the photo wasn’t deemed offensive when he tweeted it on previous royal births but is now is more to do with how the people offended’s minds work rather than DB’s. Perhaps they are the racist ones linking a monkey with a mixed race baby?

Where are all these previous tweets, using the same image, for other royal births? I'd expect them to have been retweeted like mad in support of Baker's defence?

You've taken the incident out of context. He has an ongoing gag with monkeys dressed as famous people, Katie Hopkins does not.

As The Clamps says, the outrage is from people coming to DB for the first time. Unfortunately for Danny he didn't pick up on the racial overtones that would be implied in his post. As he said, stupid and unthinking. And now he has been thrown to the wolves because of it.

I wish no ill on Danny at all. I've taken nothing out of context, and I'm not remotely offended, personally. But to look at that image IN context (it is in a tweet about the birth of Meghan's child) and NOT see that it is clearly going to cause offense in many, many quarters, is utterly, utterly ridiculous.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,333
dont think he's been sacked for the beer tweet, its the "funny" picture in post #13 that this is really about. which is clearly out of order.
 
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Steve in Japan

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May 9, 2013
4,470
East of Eastbourne
An explanation and apology for being a bit thick would have sufficed IMO.

The BBC is on a mission to thin the ranks of pale Males, so any excuse. And this one was too good for them to miss.
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,558
Lyme Regis
Should be sacked for this ,shameful and sickening

God bless Prince Archie of Sussex

He’s one of our own

Adorable Archie deserves so much better.

:nono:
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
18,548
Valley of Hangleton
Actually, no, I'm not certain. I don't understand what other context he could be referring to. He likes a few quaffs of an evening, this looks like a really, really bad joke.

The true measure is to ask yourself if any of us posted that on here how long before the picture was removed and a ban issued for the offender?

I can see the outrage [emoji23][emoji23]
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
It was racist post can’t believe some of the twaddle on here. All decent football fans want to see racism and homophobia (especially us) removed from the game. Deserved the sack he hates Albion all good #****

Didn’t expect that from you. Completely disagree. Move On.
 


Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
He is no way a racist but, in today’s environment, with the “racist” tag being applied so liberally he should have seen this coming. Bit of a dickhead but offence not intended.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,226
Goldstone
I don't consider myself to be a snowflake, so maybe someone can correct me. But my first reaction when I scrolled down to see the monkey picture was "ohhh, god".

Having listened to DB over a number of years on radio and pods, I'm absolutely certain he didn't intend this as being a racist jibe. But man alive (as he would say), given the fact that its a mixed race baby, the first in the history of the royal family, to then post a pic today of some people leading out a monkey...

I'll put it down to misjudgement. But bloody hell Danny.
I can't believe it's taken until post 29 for someone to notice it was a ****ing daft tweet.

The tweet itself looks full on racist. It's only after some people have done some digging and announce that he's posted the same thing for other royal babies that you get some perspective that shows that's probably not how he meant it. Bloody stupid though.
 






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,474
Chandlers Ford
The true measure is to ask yourself if any of us posted that on here how long before the picture was removed and a ban issued for the offender?

I can see the outrage [emoji23][emoji23]

That is quite a good analogy, actually.

You're right if somebody had posted that picture in the royal baby thread, without a doubt people would have reported it as offensive, and I'm certain we'd have deleted it and censured the poster.

Where the analogy is also interesting is that I suppose the level of censure would have reflected the moderators' already formed views on the poster (thus informing their assessment of the intent). Much as people's existing views on Danny Baker are strongly influencing their take on any censure he ought be subject to.
 


father_and_son

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Jan 23, 2012
4,646
Under the Police Box
You've taken the incident out of context. He has an ongoing gag with monkeys dressed as famous people, Katie Hopkins does not.

As The Clamps says, the outrage is from people coming to DB for the first time. Unfortunately for Danny he didn't pick up on the racial overtones that would be implied in his post. As he said, stupid and unthinking. And now he has been thrown to the wolves because of it.

He is a football fan and a journalist/presenter who is knowledgeable about the current game. If the phrase "monkey chants" has not been a part of his regular reading/conversation then he watches his football from another planet. The connection is, arguably, not at the forefront of Joe Public's mind but anyone following football news in current times understands the connection made in racist abuse/chanting. Pleading ignorance just doesn't track if he had thought at all. This isn't like you or me tweeting... He is a public figure who has a responsibility to think before using social media. He didn't think therefore is paying the price.

I don't believe he is racist, just an idiot, but so much so he cannot stay in a role at a publicly owned corporation.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
18,548
Valley of Hangleton
Indeed.

People defending him are basing their defence of him on their past experience / opinions of the man, rather than the actual post in question.

Massively stupid - obviously offensive (INTENT doesn't define whether something IS offensive) - and clearly not acceptable from an employee of the national broadcaster :shrug:

Imagine the (understandable) reaction, if Katie Hopkins had posted a picture of a couple with a baby chimp, in this context?

This
 








Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,807
Location Location
Daily Mail knocking on the door of "Baker's £2 million house" then.

Naturally, as always, they MUST include the property value of whoever it is they are badgering :rolleyes:
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
18,548
Valley of Hangleton
I can't believe it's taken until post 29 for someone to notice it was a ****ing daft tweet.

The tweet itself looks full on racist. It's only after some people have done some digging and announce that he's posted the same thing for other royal babies that you get some perspective that shows that's probably not how he meant it. Bloody stupid though.

I’m still waiting to see these posts of other Royal Babies, have you got any you can share?
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,019
Deepest, darkest Sussex
A lot of people blaming "the offended of social media" or words to that effect.

I suggest the BBC is actually more afraid of the fact he was criticised for it by the tabloids.
 




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