[Politics] Brexit

[Is it PotG?]

No, I don't want you to start whinging again, although funnily enough other tweets were linked this morning that you weren't bothered about. Please be consistent.
There's plenty out there especially by James O'Brien, and you can find them for yourself.

Aaah, the O'Brien. What a top bloke, I should listen to him more.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Isn't he a bit too '55 Tufton Street' ?

Raab is as right wing, Singapore model nutbar as they come.

 

[portlock seagull]

Yep.

The idea that leave voters have somehow changed their minds in droves, just because of the current shenanigans, is a figment of remainers' imaginations.

Why on earth do some of you think leave voters will suddenly vote to remain in the EU because the Government made such a mess of leaving and because the EU made it difficult? Nothing about our reasons for voting to leave have changed.

Because such a mess has been made. Call it subterfuge even but to a lot of leavers inc. me haven’t so much changed their minds as realised we cannot leave, not really. That train left in the 90s. I’d vote remain in a second referendum therefore.

 

[Baldseagull]

Yep.

The idea that leave voters have somehow changed their minds in droves, just because of the current shenanigans, is a figment of remainers' imaginations.

Why on earth do some of you think leave voters will suddenly vote to remain in the EU because the Government made such a mess of leaving and because the EU made it difficult? Nothing about our reasons for voting to leave have changed.

The EU has not made it difficult, very early on, from when TM described her red lines, the position of the EU was known. It was us saying we were leaving, and what we would not have.
Your reasons to leave may not have changed, but for a lot of people the major reason they voted has changed, if they have been paying attention.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Because such a mess has been made. Call it subterfuge even but to a lot of leavers inc. me haven’t so much changed their minds as realised we cannot leave, not really. That train left in the 90s. I’d vote remain in a second referendum therefore.

Is that healthy, staying with something simply because there's no way out?


You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Aaah, the O'Brien. What a top bloke, I should listen to him more.

O’Brien let Raab do all the talking.

 

[Marshy]

I voted remain but would now vote leave. But we wont get another referendum thankfully I don't think, and neither should we.

 

[nicko31]

Yep.

The idea that leave voters have somehow changed their minds in droves, just because of the current shenanigans, is a figment of remainers' imaginations.

Why on earth do some of you think leave voters will suddenly vote to remain in the EU because the Government made such a mess of leaving and because the EU made it difficult? Nothing about our reasons for voting to leave have changed.

Most won't but some will, some will have died. Both my own parents in their 70's have changed their minds. One admits they were conned, the other has a massive guilt trip over the grand kids future

But it doesn't take many, it was close and should have never been attempted with such a small margin of victory

 

[Baldseagull]

Yes.

Show me some tweets to show how poor he is.

Not on Twitter, but a review of some statements here https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-takes-apart-dominic-raab-comments/

 

[Moshe Gariani]

I voted remain but would now vote leave.

Quite an unusual position I'd suggest. Can you summarise in a sentence or two the main reasons?

 

[Baldseagull]

So on future votes by Parliament, if some factions don't fancy it shall we fanny about and sabotage until the mood might have changed and have another bash each time?

Or should we have people now dead having what they wanted enforced on people just starting out in adult life?

 

[Chicken Run]

Quite an unusual position I'd suggest. Can you summarise in a sentence or two the main reasons?

He’d be mad to summarise, the pseudo know it all self proclaimed intellects will bully him into submission!

 

[KZNSeagull]

I will go for rank outsider Rory Stewart. Seems a sensible chap plus anyone who can win the award for best parliamentary speech of 2015 by talking about Hedgehogs must have something about him

 

[Is it PotG?]

Or should we have people now dead having what they wanted enforced on people just starting out in adult life?

Sauce? Pure speculation and whining. I know many in the early 20 bracket opting out.

 

[ManOfSussex]

I will go for rank outsider Rory Stewart. Seems a sensible chap plus anyone who can win the award for best parliamentary speech of 2015 by talking about Hedgehogs must have something about him

Old Etonian though. There should be a law passed banning any of them from ever being PM again.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Not on Twitter, but a review of some statements here https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-takes-apart-dominic-raab-comments/

Oh well, BoJo then.


I see it was LBCs own website, the one claiming the same when he acted like a petulant kid huffing, puffing and swaying his shoulders whilst talking with JRM.

 

[Baldseagull]

Is that healthy, staying with something simply because there's no way out?


You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave

Well yeah, trying to get out of something you can't get out of is an exercise in futility. However, we can get out, but there needs to be a will to do it, and something clearly defined to go to, what we were asked was do we want to leave, but no one explained that all the different possible things we could do once out, were not all possible at once, and that those in power were going to argue for ever over where we are headed, we voted leave on everyones idea of what the next destination will be, but we can't suit everyone.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Well yeah, trying to get out of something you can't get out of is an exercise in futility. However, we can get out, but there needs to be a will to do it, and something clearly defined to go to, what we were asked was do we want to leave, but no one explained that all the different possible things we could do once out, were not all possible at once, and that those in power were going to argue for ever over where we are headed, we voted leave on everyones idea of what the next destination will be, but we can't suit everyone.

Exactly.

 

[The Clamp]

i think you'll find i am mate .....but maybe i'll stop now and just let you lot smother in what you seem to be begging for.

immigration is ok if it is not to the detriment of the wider community .........can you tell me why my mother is being charged 900 quid a week in a rest home when there are immigrants being housed in Ealing , in houses owned by lords .....ahhhhh there you go , argument solved , silly me , corrupt to the core mate ....!!

Ah! The old “immigration is okay if it’s me” argument. I think I’ve got the measure of it.

 

[Baldseagull]

Sauce? Pure speculation and whining. I know many in the early 20 bracket opting out.

Can't be arsed to find a source you won't read, and if you did would find some other reason to dismiss. try thinking about yourself though, some time has passed, some people have passed, some people have turned 18.