[Politics] Brexit

[BBassic]

EU have no reason to blink. They're holding the ****ING CARDS HOW HAVE THESE TORY ***** NOT UNDERSTOOD THIS YET

It's like we're playing the worst hand of Blackjack ever.


UK: Hit me
EU: 20
UK: Hit me
EU: Uhhhhh
UK: HIT ME DAMN IT
EU: 21!
UK: HIT ME! AGAIN!

 

[JC Footy Genius]

It's always the fault of remainers isn't it? Actually, no. Sometimes it's the EU and sometimes it's Ireland. It's never the clueless Brexiteers though is it? You know, like that quitter David Davis who turns up to negotiations armed only with a pencil and paper, or Boris Johnson who bends with public opinion and quits right when he's actually needed.

Plenty of blame to go around including some Brexiteers in parliament. But we have already agreed it was never a good idea to let 'mainly' Remainers handle this process. DD and other Brexit Sec of State turned up to negotiations thinking he/they were directing the negotiations whereas May/ Robbins were calling the tune. Brexiteers quit because the PM diverged from what she promised

 

[WATFORD zero]

The EU probably believes parliament will block no deal so they can play whatever sh*t cards they want as our side will always fold. If only numerous people on 'our' side weren't rooting for the other player to win and doing their best to make that happen ...

Everyone knows what each other's cards are. We both know each others GDP splits, international imports, exports, government borrowing, spending and anything else we could want to know. We only need to look on the Internet

This is International Trade negotiations, not Whist FFS

 

[WATFORD zero]

Plenty of blame to go around including some Brexiteers in parliament. But we have already agreed it was never a good idea to let 'mainly' Remainers handle this process. DD and other Brexit Sec of State turned up to negotiations thinking he/they were directing the negotiations whereas May/ Robbins were calling the tune. Brexiteers quit because the PM diverged from what she promised

Of course, we would have got far more unicorns had Boris been in charge

 

[Lincoln Imp]

There are some undemocratic loons saying we should disregard the referendum result...

Yes, and I still think MPs should facilitate a second referendum, showing the same bottle as their predecessors did when they got behind Churchill.

Far from disregarding the referendum result, the government has spend two and a half years trying to see how to implement it. The most likely outcome is very different to the promised utopia. It would be democratic to ask the people if they still want to go ahead.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Everyone knows what each other's cards are. We both know each others GDP splits, international imports, exports, government borrowing, spending and anything else we could want to know. We only need to look on the Internet

This is International Trade negotiations, not Whist FFS

It wasn't me who introduced this card playing analogy!! If we already knew each other's cards can you explain why anyone bothered implementing no deal preparations?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Everyone knows what each other's cards are. We both know each others GDP splits, international imports, exports, government borrowing, spending and anything else we could want to know. We only need to look on the Internet

This is International Trade negotiations, not Whist FFS

I think you'll find that the original tweet that produced this conversation was from a REMAINER comparing it to a game of cards

Maybe you'd like to take the comparison up with him

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Plenty of blame to go around including some Brexiteers in parliament. But we have already agreed it was never a good idea to let 'mainly' Remainers handle this process. DD and other Brexit Sec of State turned up to negotiations thinking he/they were directing the negotiations whereas May/ Robbins were calling the tune. Brexiteers quit because the PM diverged from what she promised

Good grief.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Yes, and I still think MPs should facilitate a second referendum, showing the same bottle as their predecessors did when they got behind Churchill.

Far from disregarding the referendum result, the government has spend two and a half years trying to see how to implement it. The most likely outcome is very different to the promised utopia. It would be democratic to ask the people if they still want to go ahead.

You were calling for parliamentarians to seize control to stop Brexit May made no mention of referendums in her three options. A refreshing example of honesty in your arguments.

 

[neilbard]

It would be an interesting time to refuse to pay your trade bill. Just as you are about to begin trade negotiations with 164 countries and trading blocs under the WTO including Russia, USA, China, Brazil and the largest trading bloc in the world - oh yes, the EU

Could you think a little before you post as you are starting to undermine my campaign to prove not all leave voters are stupid - Thanks

Merely pointing out that the cards the EU hold do not equate to a Royal Flush as this cannot be beaten, sadly there will be no winners to come out of this debacle..Thanks

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

EU have no reason to blink. They're holding the ****ING CARDS HOW HAVE THESE TORY ***** NOT UNDERSTOOD THIS YET

Already mentioned.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Given there wasn't a referendum about appeasement in 1937 it's a bit of a stupid analogy.

It's a perfectly reasonable hypothesis that explores the notion that referendum results should always be implemented, irrespective of the national interest.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Of course, we would have got far more unicorns had Boris been in charge

I’m sure his current line of “putting a tiger in the tank” would make all the difference.

 

[mothy]

This whole thing is a giant vacuum sucking the life out of everything & everyone.

Hopefully it is the biggest waste of time in uk history & amounts to as much insignificance as the millennium bug

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Merely pointing out that the cards the EU hold do not equate to a Royal Flush as this cannot be beaten, sadly there will be no winners to come out of this debacle..Thanks

You are correct, however we will be much worse off.

The EU are not budging, then what?

The EU don’t get 39 billion, sure but we will end up paying more with tariffs/buisness leaving which in turn will make a dent on the money lost by the EU when they relocate.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-brexit-explanation-gets-backing/

 

[Driver8]

Hardly a Royal Flush is it, maybe pocket aces if your being generous. 39 Billion pissed away if its No Deal...

Pretty sure we will be paying the £39b deal or no deal. They may have to accept it in instalments if no deal though as we will be skint.

 

[neilbard]

You are correct, however we will be much worse off.

The EU are not budging, then what?

The EU don’t get 39 billion, sure but we will end up paying more with tariffs/buisness leaving which in turn will make a dent on the money lost by the EU when they relocate.

"I couldnt be more petrified if a wild Rhinoceros had just come home from a hard day at the swamp and found me wearing his pyjamas, smoking his cigars and in bed with his wife." Blackadder

 

[A1X]

Hardly a Royal Flush is it, maybe pocket aces if your being generous. 39 Billion pissed away if its No Deal...

Except the £39bn is a legal requirement and after this we expect to enter trade negotiations on the back of reneging on several international obligations as a result of No Deal and expect to be taken seriously.

 

[Triggaaar]

The Government now, not the Government then. The Government now is much more pro-Brexit, and it is the Government now which is refusing to hold another vote.

The government now still (more than half their MPs, including May) don't want Brexit. They are not pro-Brexit, but they're carrying on with it because that's what they were told to do in the referendum.

They're not refusing to have another referendum because they're pro-Brexit, they're refusing to because they know it will be extremely unpopular with millions of people who voted for Brexit.

The refusal by the Government to rule out No Deal indicates they are happy to if they see it as politically palatable for them to do so.

No it doesn't. It's simply a bargaining position which they don't want to admit they won't action.

If they were respecting the GFA vote then the onus would be on the Government to pass a deal which respected the GFA terms

Oh, like May's deal you mean. They're tried to get a deal passed, and they failed.

IMO they won't be cancelling the GFA. You're free to disagree with me.