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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
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Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
10,993
Crawley
What tons of regulations and tax prevented these Herberts' from entering the UK?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rderers-rapists-and-paedophiles-10084191.html

Since 2012 we have had access to the criminal records of EU citizens, if those persons were on the Schengen II database, which includes about 300,000 wanted persons, then it is our fault for not checking them against the list on arrival. We have more chance of stopping EU criminals at our border than those from anywhere else we have Visa free travel with.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,629
West is BEST
And if people continue with their supposedly irrational behaviour no doubt the predictions will be proved wrong yet again.

Nope. There'll be a huge crash and people will lose homes, cars, marriages and livelihoods but as long as we have our freedom from Europe, who cares?!
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,760
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
And if people continue with their supposedly irrational behaviour no doubt the predictions will be proved wrong yet again.

I'm voting Labour in 2020. Whatever negativity is predicted as a result of a Labour Government, nothings actually going to go wrong as a result, is it?
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,993
Crawley
And if people continue with their supposedly irrational behaviour no doubt the predictions will be proved wrong yet again.

No, eventually, we hit reality, but at the moment, we still don't know if we will be hitting mattresses (soft) or concrete (hard).
 














Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,864
The Fatherland
Brexit vote was Bank’s ‘Michael Fish moment’

Britain ended last year as the strongest of the world’s advanced economies with growth accelerating in the six months after the Brexit vote.

Business activity hit a 17-month high last month, meaning that the economy grew by 2.2 per cent last year — more than the six other leading nations, including the US, Germany and Japan.

Far from slowing after the referendum in June, as predicted by the Treasury and Bank of England, growth appeared to have improved. GDP grew at 0.3 per cent and 0.6 per cent in the first two quarters of last year, compared with 0.6 per cent and an estimated 0.5 per cent in the final period.

Andrew Haldane, chief economist at the Bank of England, suggested that economic forecasters were facing a “Michael Fish moment” over their mistaken predictions. Mr Haldane, comparing the profession’s failure to spot the 2008 recession to Fish’s infamous assurance of “no hurricane” on the eve of the great storm of 1987, said yesterday: “It’s a fair cop to say that the profession is to some degree in crisis.”

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-worlds-top-economy-after-brexit-rt7j9lccb

Always had a lot of time for The Times analysis .. :D

You have previously told me experts talk tosh? Make your mind up.
 










Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,864
The Fatherland
I read elsewhere that Andy Haldanes explanation for the lack of immediate impact is, irrational behaviour, i.e. people have kept spending money as if there is no problem on the horizon. He is not changing his prediction that there will be tougher times ahead, just that they predicted people to become cautious immediately, and not wait for the hammer to fall.

He has also said he doesn't fully understand pensions.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,864
The Fatherland
Every day is our reality, it's just some people refuse to accept it if it doesn't conform to their preconceived world view.

So what is your world view? Where have you travelled? Where have you lived?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,864
The Fatherland
Well some do and they appear more believable when they admit their failings.

Are you now telling me inherently wrong experts, who admit they're wrong, are more believable? Before we actually discuss this point can I suggest that basic logic isn't your strong point?
 








Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,864
The Fatherland




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