[Football] "if they don't close that stadium someone will get killed there."

[One Teddy Maybank]

I just think it is depressing that the only thing stopping people causing trouble is police and segregation. Are we not intelligent and developed enough to be able to hold ourselves back from fighting each other!?

Great post and very true.

 

[Guinness Boy]

There seems to be some kind of invisible force field keeping the two groups apart?


I mean, that line of part time, 21 year-old stewards from The University of East London couldn't possibly be keeping our countries' TOP BOYS from getting to each other.... could they?

According to a mate of mine who's a West Ham STH there is a real issue with the stewards at that stadium. Most of those from Upton Park were let go and a whole new lot hired, adding to the problems at the stadium. It might have been comedy "hold me back" handbags on the video but there was a Chelsea fan complaining on the Today programme just now that his young daughter had coins thrown at her. That's bang out of order and shouldn't be possible in a well run stadium.

 

[Lower West Stander]

I just think it is depressing that the only thing stopping people causing trouble is police and segregation. Are we not intelligent and developed enough to be able to hold ourselves back from fighting each other!?

This.

Try explaining segregation to an NBA/NHL/NFL fan in the US and they'd give yo an incredulous look.

Worst I saw was about three Penguins fans giving it large at MSG and getting a load of semi- friendly abuse from Rangers fans.

Sadly there are still too many people going to games who see it as a tribal thing rather than just a game.

But comments about a return to the 70s? Do me a favour!


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[Not Andy Naylor]

According to long-term West Ham fans of my acquaintance, the club's refusal to designate certain areas of the new ground as the equivalents of parts of Upton Park has been a factor, as has not using the same stewarding firm. So some people from the old Bobby Moore Lower who want to stand are mixed in with those who prefer to sit, all overseen by stewards who don't know anything about the club or its fan elements. And some of the, er, extreme elements are too close to the away fans.

I understand the old stewarding company is back now, but they are having to deal with an unfamiliar situation. But really they need to look again at seat allocation across the whole stadium.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Horrible club run by creepy perverts. Horrible stadium. Horrible fans.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Try explaining segregation to an NBA/NHL/NFL fan in the US and they'd give yo an incredulous look.

That's just not true. I don't know about the other sports, but American football has a history of nasty crowd violence.

Here's a taster which includes many incidents of crowd violence:
http://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-20-most-dangerous-places-to-visit-as-a-fan/

Many of those are NFL related with a few 'soccer' cases thrown in. Google NFL violence.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

A West Ham fan of my acquaintance predicted trouble months ago. He looked at the early fixtures and said they would probably not get any real trouble until the London derbies kicked in and also when they played Man Utd. He talked about the poor segregation inside and this funnelling of fans for a mile to Stratford station. He felt that it was a disaster area waiting to happen. As it turned out, trouble flared v Watford and so last night was no surprise. Encouraging to hear that the original stewarding team are being re-employed. The only problem is that they can change very little in how fans go to and from the stadium.

 

[Stat Brother]

Embarrassing.


Apropos of very little does anyone know anybody called Toby?
Or more importantly does anybody know multiple Toby's?

 

[Guinness Boy]

A West Ham fan of my acquaintance predicted trouble months ago. He looked at the early fixtures and said they would probably not get any real trouble until the London derbies kicked in and also when they played Man Utd. He talked about the poor segregation inside and this funnelling of fans for a mile to Stratford station. He felt that it was a disaster area waiting to happen. As it turned out, trouble flared v Watford and so last night was no surprise. Encouraging to hear that the original stewarding team are being re-employed. The only problem is that they can change very little in how fans go to and from the stadium.

Plenty of trouble against Middlesboro as well according to my mate, just not as well publicised.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Embarrassing.


Apropos of very little does anyone know anybody called Toby?
Or more importantly does anybody know multiple Toby's?

No but clearly PPF knows of multiple 'Toby Jugs'.

 

[Stat Brother]

No but clearly PPF knows if multiple 'Toby Jugs'.

Clearly a more popular name than I'm aware of.

Is that the Jugs of Chipping Campden?

 

[nicko31]

£272m and they can't make the stadium work....

 

[Eeyore]

Embarrassing.


Apropos of very little does anyone know anybody called Toby?
Or more importantly does anybody know multiple Toby's?

I know two. Neither like football.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

According to a mate of mine who's a West Ham STH there is a real issue with the stewards at that stadium. Most of those from Upton Park were let go and a whole new lot hired, adding to the problems at the stadium. It might have been comedy "hold me back" handbags on the video but there was a Chelsea fan complaining on the Today programme just now that his young daughter had coins thrown at her. That's bang out of order and shouldn't be possible in a well run stadium.

I saw them on Breakfast tv. The daughter was just 8 years old.

 

[Durlston]

I was listening to Final Score after and when that Wet Spam fan made that quote, I thought that's a massive overreaction. Someone could lose the sight in an eye with a coin for life at worse. And it wouldn't be a thug. Oh no, it would be someone's child who was trying to get out of the way. Making season tickets and cup matches dirt cheap brings in the cowardly scum.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Bigger net required, El P. Won't be long before the real PPF and Bushy get scent though.

 

[Return of the Rev]

I know two. Neither like football.

Point proved

 

[cjd]

This.

Try explaining segregation to an NBA/NHL/NFL fan in the US and they'd give yo an incredulous look.




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Whilst I agree that sporting events in America are far less tribal, I think it helps that if you were to threaten to fight opposing supporters there is every chance they would just pull out their guns and shoot you.

Maybe the Gun lobby has a point ?






NB; this post is somewhat tongue in cheek

 

[alfredmizen]

Bigger net required, El P. Won't be long before the real PPF and Bushy get scent though.

Whilst bushy deplores the way football has gone all happy clappy, you misjudge him if you think he is going to go all "green st" about last night's events.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Whilst bushy deplores the way football has gone all happy clappy, you misjudge him if you think he is going to go all "green st" about last night's events.

But you were on the thread and posted within 5 minutes.