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[Cricket] **Sussex v Hampshire ,LV County Championship - Division One, 7-10 June 2015, Hove **



Surf's Up

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I was going to go today but after watching the debacle yesterday Ive decided to paint the fence instead ... at least I'll keep my sanity that way.
 






Badger

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CRACKING start from Sussex
 




Gwylan

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I was going to go today but after watching the debacle yesterday Ive decided to paint the fence instead ... at least I'll keep my sanity that way.

I was going to go this afternoon too but, as the match will be over before 3.00 have given up on that idea.

We're nearly halfway through the season and still not one of Sussex's five senior batsmen has scored a century. This is like going back to 1972-76 when we were shockingly bad, the only difference this time is that we have a decent bowling attack (when they're not all crocked).

When does the Goff become English?
 








Gwylan

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It is meant to be this month.

Would presume Simon Harmer will then become the overseas player.

I would have thought a batsman would be a higher priority. Can't de Villiers be persuaded that a few months in county cricket is must-do? :)
 




Moshe Gariani

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We're nearly halfway through the season and still not one of Sussex's five senior batsmen has scored a century. This is like going back to 1972-76 when we were shockingly bad

The difference this time is that the Hove pitches are to blame for the low-scoring rather than all of the Sussex batsmen being quite crap. For much of the 70s we were close to being, if not actually, the worst professional cricket team in the country. During the last decade we have consistently been one of the best teams in the country and this season can still enjoy the batting of internationals Ed Joyce, Luke Wright, Chris Jordan and Michael Yardy alongside Sussex products Chris Nash, Matt Machan, Luke Wells, and Ben Brown.
 


Simster

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55th over and Luke Wright is now slapping fours regularly.

I will BET good money that he will be out, caught or clean bowled, at some point in the next ten overs.
 






Uncle Buck

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The difference this time is that the Hove pitches are to blame for the low-scoring rather than all of the Sussex batsmen being quite crap. For much of the 70s we were close to being, if not actually, the worst professional cricket team in the country. During the last decade we have consistently been one of the best teams in the country and this season can still enjoy the batting of internationals Ed Joyce, Luke Wright, Chris Jordan and Michael Yardy alongside Sussex products Chris Nash, Matt Machan, Luke Wells, and Ben Brown.

The pitch is not to blame for this game.

Agreed with the last couple, but this is form, technique, confidence etc, rather than the pitch.
 




Moshe Gariani

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The pitch is not to blame for this game.

Agreed with the last couple, but this is form, technique, confidence etc, rather than the pitch.
Are you listening to the radio commentary...??!!

One ball bounced over the batsman's head off a good length this morning and now one "keeps a little low"...! That should not happen and makes batting extremely difficult.

Form and confidence are the most significant of your three factors. They have been massively adversely affected by the Hove pitches this year.

The Sussex batsmen have collectively shown plenty of character and skill in the face of very difficult circumstances.
 




Uncle Buck

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Are you listening to the radio commentary...??!!

One ball bounced over the batsman's head off a good length this morning and now one "keeps a little low"...! That should not happen and makes batting extremely difficult.

Form and confidence are the most significant of your three factors. They have been massively adversely affected by the Hove pitches this year.

The Sussex batsmen have collectively shown plenty of character and skill in the face of very difficult circumstances.

On Sunday (granted day one), that pitch looked very sedate compared with the previous effort against Warwickshire. There was one from Briggs that fizzed up and somebody did get out to a ball affected by the pitch. However several of the first innings dismissals were down the to the batsmen getting out, which is a form, technique, temperament, coaching etc issue.

I accept the pitch will deteriorate, so on day 3 it will be doing a bit more, but this was not like the minefield wickets of the previous 2 home games.

Also at Trent Bridge, especially in that second innings, players got out, rather than the pitch doing them.

In the last couple of seasons the batsmen have rarely put large totals on, often they get to 300 ish and that is it. That is the batsmen rather than the conditions as it has happened too often.
 


Gwylan

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During the last decade we have consistently been one of the best teams in the country and this season can still enjoy the batting of internationals Ed Joyce, Luke Wright, Chris Jordan and Michael Yardy alongside Sussex products Chris Nash, Matt Machan, Luke Wells, and Ben Brown.

Only two of whom have scored centuries for us this season.Joyce, Yardy, Nash and Wells all have averages under 20

Don't buy the poor pitch excuse - maybe for the Warks match but we lost at Durham on a pitch where only four wickets fell in the 4th innnings. And this pitch is so poor that the bottom team in the country scored nearly 400
 


Gwylan

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Also at Trent Bridge, especially in that second innings, players got out, rather than the pitch doing them.
Trent Bridge is a case in point. It seamed a bit early on - it often does at TB - but once the ball got older it was a good batting pitch - as evidenced by the Notts no 9 getting a ton. Yes, we lost a few early wickets but the middle order needed to get their heads down but they didn't. I was listening to the commentary when Machan had three successive wild swishes outside the off-stump, Nash went down to have a word with him but no avail, he swished again and was caught. That's nothing to do with the pitch, it's just poor batting
 


Uncle Buck

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Trent Bridge is a case in point. It seamed a bit early on - it often does at TB - but once the ball got older it was a good batting pitch - as evidenced by the Notts no 9 getting a ton. Yes, we lost a few early wickets but the middle order needed to get their heads down but they didn't. I was listening to the commentary when Machan had three successive wild swishes outside the off-stump, Nash went down to have a word with him but no avail, he swished again and was caught. That's nothing to do with the pitch, it's just poor batting

Which then comes back to what are the coaches doing with Machin? He is talented and aggressive, but he needs to be taught how to play depending on the game and the conditions, not try coming out and hitting everything.
 




Moshe Gariani

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Only two of whom have scored centuries for us this season.Joyce, Yardy, Nash and Wells all have averages under 20

Don't buy the poor pitch excuse - maybe for the Warks match but we lost at Durham on a pitch where only four wickets fell in the 4th innnings. And this pitch is so poor that the bottom team in the country scored nearly 400
Each of these teams only has one class bowler.

The top order scores so far in the match are:

Sussex 202/6
Hants 171/6
Sussex 142/6

The radio commentary is talking about obviously variable bounce on the third morning of the match.

You carry on calling crap batting/coaching by Sussex and I'll tell you that the new ball on this surface would have been very difficult for anyone, let alone our shell-shocked batting troops.
 


Uncle Buck

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Each of these teams only has one class bowler.

The top order scores so far in the match are:

Sussex 202/6
Hants 171/6
Sussex 142/6

The radio commentary is talking about obviously variable bounce on the third morning of the match.

You carry on calling crap batting/coaching by Sussex and I'll tell you that the new ball on this surface would have been very difficult for anyone, let alone our shell-shocked batting troops.

Sorry, we got out in that first innings more than Hants got us out.

The issue I suspect that is going to occur in this game, is we will set them a tricky ish score to chase, but seem to only trust 3 of our 4 bowlers and we could really do with a spinner if the wicket is going a bit wrong.
 


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