This run is worse than any under Hyypia .......

[wsupp]

I agree, we are garbage at the moment... but we have to stick with the team!! We've seen worse times, far worse!

 

[GreersElbow]

Wait, Hughton has 3 strikers...Hyypia had 4. 2 of which could score. Baldock is now injured and Colunga was shipped.

Cannot compare.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Millwall have a GD of -30; ours is -8. That's a 22 relative goal difference that they'd have to overturn in 2 games. Even if Midds and Watford each beat us 5-0, Millwall would have to win by 6-0 and 7-0. As such, even if Millwall had a remarkable 3 wins (against decent sides), we're still safe if we win 1 of our remaining 2 games; hence, safety is in our hands.
Lastly, we have not bombed like a lead balloon: we've barely been out of the bottom 6 since Autumn; this is a where we are now QUOTE

If Millwall win tomorrow our superior GD will mean diddly squat. as 2 more wins for them will keep them up. We need a minimum of 1 point realistically to have any chance of staying up possibly even a win will be needed.

If we end up with 46 points we will deserve to be relegated regardless of other teams and it will have been largely self inflicted. However there is very little chance of Millwall getting more than 4 points from the next 3 games

 

[dangull]

Millwall have a GD of -30; ours is -8. That's a 22 relative goal difference that they'd have to overturn in 2 games. Even if Midds and Watford each beat us 5-0, Millwall would have to win by 6-0 and 7-0. As such, even if Millwall had a remarkable 3 wins (against decent sides), we're still safe if we win 1 of our remaining 2 games; hence, safety is in our hands.
Lastly, we have not bombed like a lead balloon: we've barely been out of the bottom 6 since Autumn; this is a where we are now QUOTE

If Millwall win tomorrow our superior GD will mean diddly squat. as 2 more wins for them will keep them up. We need a minimum of 1 point realistically to have any chance of staying up possibly even a win will be needed.

It's not just about Millwall though, Rotheram are likely to be deducted 3 points, so they would be more likely to go down than us if Millwall produce a miraculous finish to the season.

 

[GT49er]

If Millwall win tomorrow our superior GD will mean diddly squat. as 2 more wins for them will keep them up. We need a minimum of 1 point realistically to have any chance of staying up possibly even a win will be needed.

We do have 'any chance' of staying up at the moment - realistically probably a better chance than Millwall have of getting seven points from three games.
However, a month or so ago we had 40 points from 36 games, and getting a point a game, or fractionally better, for the rest of the season to guarantee safety seemed to be quite a relaxing prospect. Don't feel that relaxed now! Although I still think we'll stay up - just wish we could crawl over that bl**dy line! Come on Blackburn!

 

[Bold Seagull]

We do have 'any chance' of staying up at the moment - realistically probably a better chance than Millwall have of getting seven points from three games.
However, a month or so ago we had 40 points from 36 games, and getting a point a game, or fractionally better, for the rest of the season to guarantee safety seemed to be quite a relaxing prospect. Don't feel that relaxed now! Although I still think we'll stay up - just wish we could crawl over that bl**dy line! Come on Blackburn!

What, you expected more than a single point from Norwich H, Rotherham A, Bournemouth H, Huddersfield H, Wigan A....

You must want the moon on a stick.

 

[BensGrandad]

It's not just about Millwall though, Rotheram are likely to be deducted 3 points, so they would be more likely to go down than us if Millwall produce a miraculous finish to the season.

Not really because they would be 5 points behind us with a reasonably easy run in

Norwich (h)
Reading (h)
Leeds (a)

so 7 points is quite easily achievable.

 

[Easy 10]

How many points did Nathan Jones get when he was in charge, just can't remember whether he had two, three or four games, but I do remember us winning under him. The fact is that if we scrape survival this year it will be down to the points we got under him and not under the present manager. Its not a bitch at Hughton its just how I see it.

Jones was in charge for the Boxing Day draw with Reading (from 0-2 down) and the win at Fulham, so 4 points. But those 4 points are no more or less valuable than the points we've picked up since under Hughton, so to isolate those 4 points under Jones and say "that's why we're staying up" is a bit daft.

Hughton won his first League game at Charlton and we put together a mini-revival (of sorts) which pulled us away from immediate danger, and since then we've done *just about* enough to stay out of trouble. Would we have been any higher up the table if Jones had been given the job ? I have absolutely no idea. But 2 games is certainly not enough to proclaim Jones as the saviour of our Championship status, nor is it proof that he'd have done any better had he been given the job for the rest of the season.

 

[GT49er]

What, you expected more than a single point from Norwich H, Rotherham A, Bournemouth H, Huddersfield H,

Certainly, based on the way we were performing up to that point.
March - played 5, won 2, drawn 2, lost 1: 8 points from five games;
February - played 6, won 2, drawn 2, lost 2: 8 points from six games.
....and no reason at the time to believe we couldn't continue in that vein. Moon on a stick, my ****!

 

[GT49er]

Not really because they would be 5 points behind us with a reasonably easy run in

Norwich (h)
Reading (h)
Leeds (a)

so 7 points is quite easily achievable.

Yes, but remember both Rotherham AND Millwall have to overtake us if we are to go down.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Certainly, based on the way we were performing up to that point.
March - played 5, won 2, drawn 2, lost 1: 8 points from five games;
February - played 6, won 2, drawn 2, lost 2: 8 points from six games.
....and no reason at the time to believe we couldn't continue in that vein. Moon on a stick, my ****!

 

[GT49er]

Presume you've been in hibernation through the winter months then.

 

[nwgull]

Millwall have a GD of -30; ours is -8. That's a 22 relative goal difference that they'd have to overturn in 2 games. Even if Midds and Watford each beat us 5-0, Millwall would have to win by 6-0 and 7-0. As such, even if Millwall had a remarkable 3 wins (against decent sides), we're still safe if we win 1 of our remaining 2 games; hence, safety is in our hands.
Lastly, we have not bombed like a lead balloon: we've barely been out of the bottom 6 since Autumn; this is a where we are now QUOTE

If Millwall win tomorrow our superior GD will mean diddly squat. as 2 more wins for them will keep them up. We need a minimum of 1 point realistically to have any chance of staying up possibly even a win will be needed.

If Millwall win tomorrow, our superior GD will mean that they still have to get 4 points from 2 games, both of which are against good opponents. Effectively, our superior GD means that it Millwall lose one of their remaining 3 games, we're safe. That is far more than diddly squat in my book.

Rotherham's final 3 games isn't easy either.

 

[BensGrandad]

If Millwall win tomorrow, our superior GD will mean that they still have to get 4 points from 2 games, both of which are against good opponents. Effectively, our superior GD means that it Millwall lose one of their remaining 3 games, we're safe. That is far more than diddly squat in my book.

Rotherham's final 3 games isn't easy either.

I dont agree of the remaining games I would prefer to have Rotherhams than any others plus Derby are more likely to be in the play offs than us in The Championship so may rest any slightly doubtful players.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Presume you've been in hibernation through the winter months then.

I was being sarcastic man! Crikey, I think after beating Ipswich, Birmingham, Leeds, Derby, Blackburn, plus some hard fought draws, there wasn't anyone who thought we'd only get 1 point from these last 5 games. I haven't been in hibernation, but your sense of humour might have been.

 

[nwgull]

I dont agree of the remaining games I would prefer to have Rotherhams than any others plus Derby are more likely to be in the play offs than us in The Championship so may rest any slightly doubtful players.

Derby have to get another 3 points to ensure that they're in the play offs. I'm sure that they'd rather do this this weekend than on the final day. And, if they fail to beat Millwall, it leaves the door open for Wolves, who play Millwall at home on the final day. Still think that Millwall getting 7 points is likely?

As for Rotherham, on the assumption that they'll get docked 3 points, they're 5 points (and a large GD) behind us. I know whose position I'd rather be in.

 

[perseus]

67/1 for Albion relegation. Should I put £10 just in case I need my season ticket money back? I don't fancy third tier football ever again.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

67/1 for Albion relegation. Should I put £10 just in case I need my season ticket money back? I don't fancy third tier football ever again.

The odds are falling each match. If you want to bet do it before Millwall beat Blackburn...

 

[GT49er]

I was being sarcastic man! Crikey, I think after beating Ipswich, Birmingham, Leeds, Derby, Blackburn, plus some hard fought draws, there wasn't anyone who thought we'd only get 1 point from these last 5 games. I haven't been in hibernation, but your sense of humour might have been.

Didn't come across that way, but OK, Pax!

 

[Prince Monolulu]

No chance whatsoever of going down