Burke pull your finger out

[Rookie]

TBH I can't see us being anywhere near the bottom of the table, even if we went with our current depleted squad.

However, and sorry for the repetition, but if we are not in or around the top 6, say top 10, experience tells me our incredibly fickle fans (the majority of our fans, not the die-hards on here) will flit away and we'll lose vital revenue.

We'll end up losing more money than we've saved by playing hard-ball on player acquisitions. A lot more.

Again with this fickle fans, where is the proof for that?

 

[Hungry Joe]

TBH I can't see us being anywhere near the bottom of the table, even if we went with our current depleted squad.

However, and sorry for the repetition, but if we are not in or around the top 6, say top 10, experience tells me our incredibly fickle fans (the majority of our fans, not the die-hards on here) will flit away and we'll lose vital revenue.

We'll end up losing more money than we've saved by playing hard-ball on player acquisitions. A lot more.

You really are very stupid, either that or you are conducting the longest running wind-up in NSC history.

 

[B.W.]

That statement makes no sense at all. If our recruitment were so crap we wouldn't have any good players to sell on in the first place. So which is it?

Makes sense to me. The last window we did well with selling Liam and Ash, both for good money, but failed to secure an adequate replacement for the latter in the same window.

So far this window, we are at severe risk of failing to plug the huge gaps in our squad timely (actually, we've already failed to do so in a timely fashion IMHO).

 

[Peterrhodes]

The majority of clubs pushing for promotion have signed the bulk of their new team already as they were ready / at advanced stages with the signings before the summer and recognise the value of pre season.

We have got good deals for outgoing players but that doesn't help us unless we replace the players with the same if not better quality players with the incoming cash. Barnes, bridcutt etc didn't leave last week and we knew who we were releasing well before the end of the year so we should have planned ahead. It's called strategic leadership.

We need to balance FFP and academy spending with maintaining or improving our league chances. There is no point being prem ready off the field and league one ready on it.

 

[B.W.]

Again with this fickle fans, where is the proof for that?

About 40 years of watching Brighton tells me this. We are, as I understand it, about 2k in ST sales down on last season.

 

[B.W.]

You really are very stupid, either that or you are conducting the longest running wind-up in NSC history.

Neither. Fair enough if you disagree.

 

[chaileyjem]

We sold nearly 21k season tickets this year by March when we were a top 10 team. We didn't look top 6 at all until the last 6 games of the season...
Where's evidence our fans are "notoriously fickle ?"
They've filled 80% or more of our ground for the last 14 seasons

 

[Rookie]

About 40 years of watching Brighton tells me this. We are, as I understand it, about 2k in ST sales down on last season.

Got any stats or facts to back this up (as I understand does not really count as a fact). There is obviously a significant decline in the late Goldstone years but in recent years and definitely since the Amex has been built attendances have gone up year on year

 

[chaileyjem]

About 40 years of watching Brighton tells me this. We are, as I understand it, about 2k in ST sales down on last season.

Are we ? Please provide a link to the last public confirmation of sales by the club to back that up ...

 

[B.W.]

We sold nearly 21k season tickets this year by March when we were a top 10 team. We didn't look top 6 at all until the last 6 games of the season...
Where's evidence our fans are "notoriously fickle ?"
They've filled 80% or more of our ground for the last 14 seasons

Try taking the longer view. You sound incredibly complacent.

 

[edna krabappel]

Try taking the longer view. You sound incredibly complacent.

Take the longer view?

Says the man arguing that the Director of Football has failed because we haven't made half a dozen signings by July?

 

[B.W.]

Got any stats or facts to back this up (as I understand does not really count as a fact). There is obviously a significant decline in the late Goldstone years but in recent years and definitely since the Amex has been built attendances have gone up year on year

I must admit I've already searched for a link to my ST 2k down figure, and failed to find it. Sorry. As I said before, I hope I'm just being paranoid.

 

[chaileyjem]

BTW... The Leo deal was fantastic. Great deal for us. Said so at the time. We seem to have no problem selling our best players for good money. However, player acquisition has been and remains shocking.

Excluding as recently as Jan 2013 presumably when the very same recruitment team did the deal to acquire Ulloa in the first place.

 

[B.W.]

Are we ? Please provide a link to the last public confirmation of sales by the club to back that up ...

You now I tried and failed to find that link, since you asked me the exact same question last time round.

 

[edna krabappel]

I must admit I've already searched for a link to my ST 2k down figure, and failed to find it. Sorry. As I said before, I hope I'm just being paranoid.

I hope you weren't using Return Of The Rev's made up figures.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Got any stats or facts to back this up (as I understand does not really count as a fact). There is obviously a significant decline in the late Goldstone years but in recent years and definitely since the Amex has been built attendances have gone up year on year

Try the Mike Bailey followed by Jimmy Amelia season, that's where the fickle fans came about. Time passes but if I recall it was an Argus headline.

It has also been applied in terms of the fans turning on the team whilst at the Goldstone.

So in fairness to BW, yes it had been proven previously but that was some time ago.

 

[Hungry Joe]

Neither. Fair enough if you disagree.

In that case I just don't get it. You ignore the counter arguments of those who have a deeper level of insight and inside knowledge of the club and those running it and then move your attention to making other glib and outlandish statements about our fans' loyalty. It just sounds like you don't like the reality of what it takes to run a club sensibly and successfully in the modern era and want someone to blame for it not being 1979 anymore.

 

[B.W.]

Take the longer view?

Says the man arguing that the Director of Football has failed because we haven't made half a dozen signings by July?

TBH Edna I'm talking about attendances v capacity at the Goldstone where, as our footballing fortunes declined, so did our fan-base (unsurprisingly). Do you disagree?

 

[chaileyjem]

You now I tried and failed to find that link, since you asked me the exact same question last time round.

Why do you keep repeating it as fact then ?

 

[B.W.]

Excluding as recently as Jan 2013 presumably when the very same recruitment team did the deal to acquire Ulloa in the first place.

Interestingly, since we lost Gus' obvious powers of persuasion and his control of recruitment (and you maybe aware I'm not a big fan of his!), things have been a lot more patchy on the recruitment front. Interesting that you have to go back that far for your example, don't you think? Not really the same team then v now.