Good red wine

[Coach_Carter_92]

Another vote for Chateauneuf Du Pape from me

 

[Diego Napier]

if you can get a bottle of Chateau Margaux for £50 please tell me where.you may be able to get a Margaux but not from the the First Growth Chateau itself.
Christmas is all about a good Claret.
Ring En Primeur @ Crawley for excellent advise and range.

Did I say it would be Premier Cru? He wanted to spend 50 not £500!

In my experience, second & third growth Medoc chateaux produce remarkable wines at that price.

 

[HovaGirl]

Chateauneuf du Pape

 

[sydney]

howard park sab sav

maguigan brothers cab merlot

wolf blass cab sav

rosemount shiraz

coonawarra shiraz

the quality of the wine will depend on the storage method......
if it has spent any amount of time over 25 degs cent then it will be cooked
also to steer away from the risk of corked wine you should probably go for stelvin(screw top) bottled wine.......

 

[Skaville]

Go see Henry Butler in either he queens park road or kemp town shop. He'll sort it

 

[The Mole]

Getting a little highbrow for football fans, would expect more chat like this at rugby or perhaps lacrosse!

Have you ever met a lacrosse player!!!

 

[The Mole]

My tip would be boutkenhoutskloof Shiraz

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Chateau 'La Croix du Casse' Pomerol 2004 - Very difficult to find, but a bottle of 2005 will set you back about £50 if buying a case.

 

[Bedsex]

Yeah in 2011 they didn't make a Rubicon so built a better Red instead using the grapes they would have put in to Rubicon. The Wine Society has it for £9.95/bottle.

I agree completely. The Rubicon is excellent, but if you were after something cheaper the 2011 Meerlust Red is very, very good.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Simply put, I like red wine and would like to try a really good one (well, within my budget). So I have £50, and prefer full bodied, fruity wines. Recommendations please...

Ok - using your criteria, I'd go for California, Oz or, just, Italy.

Burgundy can be ethereal and sublime, but is rarely "full-bodied". It is probably the most expensive appellation in the world; £50 will get you a quarter decent one, but only just. Bordeaux is (slightly) better value, but is rarely "fruity". Most Italian or Spanish wines aren't fruity either (I'm comparing them to CA and Oz), though Barolo can be and Amarone is a decent shout, though the latter is a bit of a unique taste (very raisin-y).

In CA, you could try a Pinot (which, if you choose the right vineyard, can taste like a Syrah) a cab, or a Zin. If you really mean "full-bodied" and "fruity", I'd go for the latter. Perhaps a Ridge Geyserville (a Zin-heavy blend) or a Turley single-vineyard (you might struggle on pricing, but it's out of this world) or a Martinelli.

In Oz, a Syrah, a cab or a blend is a decent call and the Hallett is a very nice wine. A good small grower is Magpie. Penfolds Bin 707 is a good shout and you just might find one for £50. Bear in mind that most Oz reds have a mild to strong eucalyptus taste, which some don't like.

Meerlust is a decent shout too, but I'm not convinced it's as fruity as some of the others I've cited.

Do feel free to PM me for specific recommendations if you'd like to.

Disclosure: I'm not in the wine trade; just a life-long fan, collector and imbiber

 

[Machiavelli]

Simply put, I like red wine and would like to try a really good one (well, within my budget). So I have £50, and prefer full bodied, fruity wines. Recommendations please...

Go to Henry Butler's in Hanover or Kemptown, and tell him what you want, and you will be rewarded. If you want a wine that more or less fits that description, try a red Burgundy which just so happens to partner turkey well too. You might even get two bottles for that amount.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

Ribera del Duero

A top value quality Spanish red at between £7 and £10 a bottle. If you like fullsome wines then Spanish reds (good Riojas or Dueros) would be my suggestion.

Seasonal drinking

TNBA

TTF

 

[Superphil]

As was explained by Henry Butler when he was on the Albion Roar the first time, do bear in mind that a £5 bottle of wine, a chewy red at 14%, in the supermarket is £2.83 tax. Thats a £2.17 for the wine, supermarket profit, shipping, bottling etc, you have a very, very cheap bottle of wine on your hands. Spend a bit more, say £10 on a bottle, and you're getting taxed £3.67, so at least you're getting a £6 bottle of wine.

 

[Springal]

As was explained by Henry Butler when he was on the Albion Roar the first time, do bear in mind that a £5 bottle of wine, a chewy red at 14%, in the supermarket is £2.83 tax. Thats a £2.17 for the wine, supermarket profit, shipping, bottling etc, you have a very, very cheap bottle of wine on your hands. Spend a bit more, say £10 on a bottle, and you're getting taxed £3.67, so at least you're getting a £6 bottle of wine.

Great rule of thumb. I don't drink a lot of wine, but if I buy for myself, or as a present, normally go for minimum of £10. Hennings Wine Merchant in West Sussex have some very good deals on, if you order online, and do free delivery in most of West Sussex. Managed to get some christmas champagne in, cheaper than the supermarkets etc

 

[Superphil]

Great rule of thumb. I don't drink a lot of wine, but if I buy for myself, or as a present, normally go for minimum of £10. Hennings Wine Merchant in West Sussex have some very good deals on, if you order online, and do free delivery in most of West Sussex. Managed to get some christmas champagne in, cheaper than the supermarkets etc

Hennings are good, and they are my local (proper) wine shop, in Pulborough. Another I use is Grapes in Worthing, Richard there is a very helpful chap, not at all intimidating, very enthusiastic, and another place I go when I am trying to source something not reddiliy available elswhere.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

howard park sab sav

maguigan brothers cab merlot

wolf blass cab sav

rosemount shiraz

coonawarra shiraz

the quality of the wine will depend on the storage method......
if it has spent any amount of time over 25 degs cent then it will be cooked
also to steer away from the risk of corked wine you should probably go for stelvin(screw top) bottled wine.......

They may be good over there with you Paul but here they are absolute sh!te. Good Oz wines stay in Oz. Bad Oz wines are sold over here.

TNBA

TTF

 

[Bold Seagull]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/apr/14/expensive-wine-cheap-plonk-taste

 

[Superphil]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/apr/14/expensive-wine-cheap-plonk-taste

A survey carried out with a few people at an international science festival in Scotland. So, a bunch of geeks, who'd be pissed out of the heads at the sniff of a barmaids apron, have their views aired in a socialist newspaper, that's got me convinced then.

I'm sure if you carried out the same survey with a group of people in a more normal social environment the results would be far more dependable. I cannot imagine any normal person, not one single normal person, would not be able to tell the difference, and know which was the better, between a £3.49 bottle of red wine and a bottle of 15.99 rated claret (NB, read what I wrote previously about supermarket wine prices).

 

[Dougie]

I enjoy a drop of red but im by no means a expert . As the saying goes " a good bottle of wine is one you enjoy " I really like the zenith ( kumala ) one atm which is about £10 a bottle can can be got for a fiver now and then it is very moorish . Palace co chairman steve browett owns farr vintners and has a wine thread on the bbs where he answers all wine queries which is quite enlightening , if you dare to cross over .

 

[Bold Seagull]

A survey carried out with a few people at an international science festival in Scotland. So, a bunch of geeks, who'd be pissed out of the heads at the sniff of a barmaids apron, have their views aired in a socialist newspaper, that's got me convinced then.

I'm sure if you carried out the same survey with a group of people in a more normal social environment the results would be far more dependable. I cannot imagine any normal person, not one single normal person, would not be able to tell the difference, and know which was the better, between a £3.49 bottle of red wine and a bottle of 15.99 rated claret (NB, read what I wrote previously about supermarket wine prices).

Calm down Superphil, it was obviously just a fun survey at the science festival. I liked one of the quotes below "the real question would have been could any of them tell the difference between the wine and Scotch?"...