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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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FCC have announced that they will be running NO service before 9AM tomorrow, then a revised service after that. Does seem a bit over the top.

ALL Southern/Gatwick Express services tomorrow will be suspended until "declared safe to run".

Travel tomorrow should be avoided at all costs - take a day off with the kids or work from home !!

Ridiculous. Why not wait until a weather event actually happens, if indeed it does. Currently (19:30 Sunday night) in Brighton there's barely a breath of wind, there's no rain, and its about 14 or 15 degrees. Shameful premature showing of the red flag by the trains. Same as it ever was. Wankers.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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So people shouldnt get any advance warning then ? If my flight was being cancelled - i would like to know in advance.

I would like my flight to fly. Each to their own I guess.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Ridiculous. Why not wait until a weather event actually happens, if indeed it does. Currently (19:30 Sunday night) in Brighton there's barely a breath of wind, there's no rain, and kits about 14 or 15 degrees. Shameful :nono:

This!
 




HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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Ridiculous. Why not wait until a weather event actually happens, if indeed it does. Currently (19:30 Sunday night) in Brighton there's barely a breath of wind, there's no rain, and its about 14 or 15 degrees. Shameful premature showing of the red flag by the trains. Same as it ever was. Wankers.

So you want to be on a train doing full linespeed, which then crashes into a tree then ? Be my guest.

You would moan on here regardless of the advance notice or not.....

I would like my flight to fly. Each to their own I guess.

And you would like your plane to potentially be blown off course by a gust of wind, again possibly crashing ?
 




MissGull

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Apr 1, 2013
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They've taken precautions, for everyone's safety including the railways own staff. Good on them. If the weather isn't bad as expected, the trains will run as planned. If the weather has caused damage, they obviously won't. Simples.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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So you want to be on a train doing full linespeed, which then crashes into a tree then ? Be my guest.

You would moan on here regardless of the advance notice or not.....



And you would like your plane to potentially be blown off course by a gust of wind, again possibly crashing ?

You do yourself no favours trying to defend the indefensible. As you yourself said in your opening post... 'FCC have announced that they will be running NO service before 9AM tomorrow, then a revised service after that. Does seem a bit over the top.'

Its not just 'a bit over the top', it's an absolute ****ing disgrace.
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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So you want to be on a train doing full linespeed, which then crashes into a tree then ? Be my guest.

You would moan on here regardless of the advance notice or not.....



And you would like your plane to potentially be blown off course by a gust of wind, again possibly crashing ?


It's almost literally impossible to argue with some of these people. And they would be the first people to blame the authorities if a train or plane crashes given the advance warning of dodgy weather.
 




Guinness Boy

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Ridiculous. Why not wait until a weather event actually happens, if indeed it does. Currently (19:30 Sunday night) in Brighton there's barely a breath of wind, there's no rain, and its about 14 or 15 degrees. Shameful premature showing of the red flag by the trains. Same as it ever was. Wankers.

Are you living on another planet? It has been stupidly windy all day and I'm currently looking at the aftermath of the rain pouring down my front window. But that's not even the point.

The storm - if it comes - is going to mean operating any form of transport will be an increased risk especially in the dark. If it doesn't then Network Rail will approve getting things running again PDQ. Would you happily, now, agree to drive a car load of other people's children at 80mph through rural Sussex at 6am tomorrow with no option to back out?
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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You do yourself no favours trying to defend the indefensible. As you yourself said in your opening post... 'FCC have announced that they will be running NO service before 9AM tomorrow, then a revised service after that. Does seem a bit over the top.'

Its not just 'a bit over the top', it's an absolute ****ing disgrace.

Right MORON, as a train driver myself I'm quite happy for YOU to drive the train and risk your life on a PITCH BLACK track with the possibility of slamming into a tree that won't be visible until it's too late. IDIOT!! All the drivers will be in ready tomorrow, if things aren't as bad as predicted trains will be sent out as soon as possible.
 






Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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Are you living on another planet? It has been stupidly windy all day and I'm currently looking at the aftermath of the rain pouring down my front window. But that's not even the point.

The storm - if it comes - is going to mean operating any form of transport will be an increased risk especially in the dark. If it doesn't then Network Rail will approve getting things running again PDQ. Would you happily, now, agree to drive a car load of other people's children at 80mph through rural Sussex at 6am tomorrow with no option to back out?

100% this. I wonder if either idiot will agree they would do just that?
 


HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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You do yourself no favours trying to defend the indefensible. As you yourself said in your opening post... 'FCC have announced that they will be running NO service before 9AM tomorrow, then a revised service after that. Does seem a bit over the top.'

Its not just 'a bit over the top', it's an absolute ****ing disgrace.

It was a bit over the top, then i had another look at the weather - and it is forecasted to be worse.

Other posts above have covered the rest of what i would have said.
 


worthingseagull123

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May 5, 2012
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The storm won't kick in until most of you are tucked up in bed.

As much as I despise Southern and FCC, this is not their call (Network Rail called this).

It is better to call a shot now,rather than have thousands turn up in the morning for trains, which is the balance of probabilities, may not be running.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Right MORON, as a train driver myself I'm quite happy for YOU to drive the train and risk your life on a PITCH BLACK track with the possibility of slamming into a tree that won't be visible until it's too late. IDIOT!! All the drivers will be in ready tomorrow, if things aren't as bad as predicted trains will be sent out as soon as possible.

Is your location REALLY Brighton? I repeat, we currently have NO rain and NO wind in BN1. Fair enough, send out an early morning exploratory train very slowly to assess the danger. Totally understand. But for FCC to announce NOW no trains whatsoever will run before 9AM, as reported by OP, is shocking. Good luck defending THAT decision.
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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Is your location REALLY Brighton? I repeat, we currently have NO rain and NO wind in BN1. Fair enough, send out an early morning exploratory train very slowly to assess the danger. Totally understand. But for FCC to announce NOW no trains whatsoever will run before 9AM, as reported by OP, is shocking. Good luck defending THAT decision.

Yes, I also live in Preston Park very close to the track. It's not that windy yet which is why trains are currently running fine. Because, let me repeat, the stopping of the trains is only happening when the FORECAST winds hit. If the FORECAST is wrong then so be it - the trains can get going again.
 


TrevorDove

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Jan 4, 2004
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Brighton
Is your location REALLY Brighton? I repeat, we currently have NO rain and NO wind in BN1. Fair enough, send out an early morning exploratory train very slowly to assess the danger. Totally understand. But for FCC to announce NOW no trains whatsoever will run before 9AM, as reported by OP, is shocking. Good luck defending THAT decision.

The other thing that will be nailed on is the utter chaos once they get the go ahead to run again, despite having hours to prepare for the re-opening of the lines. Excuses will rumble on till Wednesday.

With the clocks going back, send a train up at 6am as it will be light - if it gets the all clear, trains can start running soon after.

Seems common sense, will be even more ridiculous if the winds come to nothing.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Is your location REALLY Brighton? I repeat, we currently have NO rain and NO wind in BN1. Fair enough, send out an early morning exploratory train very slowly to assess the danger. Totally understand. But for FCC to announce NOW no trains whatsoever will run before 9AM, as reported by OP, is shocking. Good luck defending THAT decision.

:facepalm:

What's it going to be like in Burgess Hill at 6.27 tomorrow morning then genius?
 




HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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Eastbourne
Yes, I also live in Preston Park very close to the track. It's not that windy yet which is why trains are currently running fine. Because, let me repeat, the stopping of the trains is only happening when the FORECAST winds hit. If the FORECAST is wrong then so be it - the trains can get going again.

Would i be right in saying that all rostered train crew will be going into work at their normal times tomorrow and that trains will be in the same place over night ?

If so, then a service would be rolled out pretty quickly once the all clear is given.
 




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