[Albion] Footage of calde's incident.

[Herr Tubthumper]

The reason Calderon takes suck a big swipe at the ball is because their player is going in two footed. It's an evasive action brought on by a terrible tackle which Calderon sees coming. Unfortunate for their player, but he shouldn't be diving into tackles like that (note: I'm NOT saying he deserved to have his leg broken).

A huge swipe is evasive action? Yeah right.

 

[Frutos]

Justin Edinburgh said on Talksport this morning that it was a 50/50 and no malice was intended----just one of those unfortunate tackles.
Will he tell the FA that?

Perhaps if he and his coaching staff hadn't made such a drama of it last night there wouldn't have been a red in the first place.

Utter bunch of kents.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

A huge swipe is evasive action? Yeah right.

He was in the process of moving his foot towards the ball at a normal rate, as he saw the bloke flying in he dramatically sped up and adjusted that movement to avoid being clattered by a two-footed lunge. If the opposition player's tackle wasn't so reckless/dangerous Calderon would have played the ball entirely differently, and it wouldn't have involved a swipe like that.

 

[TonyW]

Anthony's won the ball in a perfectly reasonable way, okay a still image shows he is momentarily off the ground, but at the point of winning the ball, it is with one leg outstretched. Calderon is late having completely misjudged the fact he was going to be second to the ball.

Complete accident, no intent hence no one had a go at Calde, but for anyone to point the finger at Anthony is completely wrong in my opinion. Calderon got it wrong, whether it's a red is the ref's fault, but I cannot understand anyone saying it's Anthony's own fault, bloodyhell, we may as well ban sliding tackles.

Anthony's challenge was nothing short of reckless.
He has jumped in at great speed with little or no chance of winning the ball cleanly.

Calde is damn lucky he is not nursing a broken bone or two of his own.

As for cards and suspensions, I certainly hope it is overturned (as it should be) and I also hope that the reckless Newport loon picks up a ban of his own.

 

[Gary Gurr]

Anthony's challenge was nothing short of reckless.
He has jumped in at great speed with little or no chance of winning the ball cleanly.

Calde is damn lucky he is not nursing a broken bone or two of his own.

As for cards and suspensions, I certainly hope it is overturned (as it should be) and I also hope that the reckless Newport loon picks up a ban of his own.

That would be the equitable thing but this is the FA so Calde will have his ban increased.

 

[maltaseagull]

I've watched it ten times and still have no idea.

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Yep so fast I do not see how the ref could blame one of them. Both on their feet both 100% committed. Looks like a very unlucky accident to me.

 

[bristolseagull]

Really? At that speed I can see why he gave a red.

 

[Conkers]

Justin Edinburgh said on Talksport this morning that it was a 50/50 and no malice was intended----just one of those unfortunate tackles.
Will he tell the FA that?

Funny he should come out and say that now. The p***k Edinburgh was whining at the crowd 30 seconds after the incident saying "50/50? The lad's broken his leg, how can it be 50/50?".

 

[Sheebo]

Every sliding tackle ever made by someone from a running position to a sliding position will in a still image at some point be completely off the ground.

At the point of winning the ball Anthony does so with one leg outstretched in connection with the floor.

As far as I'm concerned, if Anthony was my player I'd be delighted he'd shown that much effort to win a ball. If we start saying that is a bad challenge we may as well ban sliding tackles.


I don't know what Calderon is doing to be honest. He can see the player coming, I have no idea why he doesn't slide himself and win the bloody thing like a defender should, instead he ends up taking a wild swing at the ball and missing. Might not have been a red, but it was poor defending whichever way you look at it at a ball which should have been easily his.

There speaks someone who's never gone in to a full blooded sliding 50/50! You avoid it at all costs...

PS can't believe your justifying that decision!

 

[beefypigeon]

Half of that force wasn't generated by Calde though.

This is spot on... its all in the physics.

Was a 50-50 challenge all day long. If there is no bad injury, there is no card at all let alone a red. The magnitude of the injury, possibly with some persuasion from the Newport bench/players too, and a weak referee has contributed to this poor decision.

 

[edna krabappel]

I also hope that the reckless Newport loon picks up a ban of his own.

Have a bit of compassion, I suspect he's probably going to miss the next 40 games or so as it is...

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Just glad it was Calde who got sent off and not a broken leg.

 

[Bold Seagull]

There speaks someone who's never gone in to a full blooded sliding 50/50! You avoid it at all costs...

PS can't believe your justifying that decision!

Why don't you read the post. I've not for a second justified the decision, I've said I didn't think Anthony did anything wrong, and that it was poor defending from Calderon. Not once have I said it was the correct decision from the ref.

I never avoided a 50/50, and relished the opportunity to get into an opposing forward as early in a game as I possibly could. If you went about avoiding them at all costs, then I guess that's the way you played the game...

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

He was in the process of moving his foot towards the ball at a normal rate, as he saw the bloke flying in he dramatically sped up and adjusted that movement to avoid being clattered by a two-footed lunge. If the opposition player's tackle wasn't so reckless/dangerous Calderon would have played the ball entirely differently, and it wouldn't have involved a swipe like that.

I'm not entirely sure how you know all of this. I have watched the footage repeatedly and I cannot come to a definitive decision that Caldo was not using excessive force and/or was not being reckless. I therefore cannot criticise the ref as I just don't know. If you have figured out all of Calderon's intentions and actions from that crappy clip then you are a much better person than me. Personally, contesting the card will be futile and I prefer it if we just move on.

And going back to your original comment I still struggle to understand your belief that the huge "swipe" is evasive action.

 

[Sheebo]

Why don't you read the post. I've not for a second justified the decision, I've said I didn't think Anthony did anything wrong, and that it was poor defending from Calderon. Not once have I said it was the correct decision from the ref.

I never avoided a 50/50, and relished the opportunity to get into an opposing forward as early in a game as I possibly could. If you went about avoiding them at all costs, then I guess that's the way you played the game...

Haha no chance of that I'm never one to pull out. I meant if someone is sliding towards u try not to slide in too otherwise it can get v nasty and dangerous, so your guess is totally wrong. I didn't read all your posts on it but Calde didn't really do anything wrong he would've been looking mainly at the ball and was expecting them to both get there at same time. Their guy goes in more dangerously dangerouslythan calde, surely u can see that?

 

[Sheebo]

I'm not entirely sure how you know all of this. I have watched the footage repeatedly and I cannot come to a definitive decision that Caldo was not using excessive force and/or was not being reckless. I therefore cannot criticise the ref as I just don't know. If you have figured out all of Calderon's intentions and actions from that crappy clip then you are a much better person than me. Personally, contesting the card will be futile and I prefer it if we just move on.

But you'd say their player should've gone too yeh? I think it was a v big force cos their was 2 players going in v hard...

 

[TSB]

It wasn't a red live. It wasn't a red according to their manager. It wasn't a red according to our manager. It wasn't a red on that grainy image. It wasn't a red according to BBC Sussex. It wasn't a red according to BBC Wales. It wasn't a red judging by their players non-reactions (I was there. None of them appealed: they just looked concerned). It very clearly wasn't a red card.
Hope we've got a good lawyer/person arguing for us.

 

[brightn'ove]

Imagine if calde had got to the ball 0.1 seconds quicker, it would have been the side of his leg Anthony's studs up challenge would have connected with and he would have been in danger of a serious break. Anthony's challenge was the reckless and dangerous one, whether or not he won the ball. How can attempting to kick a ball be considered reckless compared to a studs up - high speed slide?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

But you'd say their player should've gone too yeh? I think it was a v big force cos their was 2 players going in v hard...

Probably, yes.

 

[Sheebo]

Probably, yes.

I think as the force was multiplied by 2 it looks more 'excessive' than it was meant...