[Football] If Palace can't play in the Europa League

[HP Seagull]

This is the genuine fear. UEL is MUCH easier now without UCL drop-ins.

I didn’t realise this was a thing until recently. Were we in the competition the last year when teams dropped into it from the Champions League? Absolutely typical and any Premier League team must be one of the favourites for the tournament now. Palace lucky again.

 

[Berty23]

I didn’t realise this was a thing until recently. Were we in the competition the last year when teams dropped into it from the Champions League? Absolutely typical and any Premier League team must be one of the favourites for the tournament now. Palace lucky again.

The harder thing our year was the teams already in it. Liverpool were brilliant and Leverkusen probably the best team in Europe. And neither of them won it!

 

[Jim in the West]

I wonder if Tony really does want the Conference League next season - it’s a hard slog travel-wise, and at the same time there is a great opportunity to get a Europa League spot NEXT season, with so many EPL teams in Europe. You also probably don’t make any money, even if you win it, as all the extra games will surely impact on your Premier League finish.

Personally, I’d take the risk!

 

[Creaky]

This.

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I'd be careful about posting such potentially libellous statements on a public forum!

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

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You think that the issue between Bloom and Benham is a spat?

I mean, if you genuinely think it's over Benham using Blooms coffee mug at work then yeah I guess Bloom is being quite petty.

I'd say that if the issue is serious enough that it led to legal proceedings and neither man wanting to be in the same room as the other 20 years on then it's quite an acrimonious situation. As far as I'm aware Bloom has never spoken in public about it, certainly doesn't go on about it and the only acknowledgement of it is once a season going in with the away fans. All things considered not that unclassy.

Oh, because he doesn't talk about it (but the story has been mysteriously leaked to the press) it shows class, does it ? Come off it

At least he's finally kissed and make up with DK.

Come on, bloke might be a god but let's not pretend he's permanently classy. He has his moments, he just prefers not to wash his dirty laundry in public

 

[eaglesdan]

There really are some tin pot outfits in that league. Average gate 2000

So similar to Brighton in the Priestfield / Withdean years?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

So similar to Brighton in the Priestfield / Withdean years?

Priestfield - yes
Withdean - No.

And wasn't it Palace that had 12 people turn up to 'save their club' at a protest in 2010?

Could be mistaken, that might have been the second time you went into administration.

 

[Bodian]

I didn’t realise this was a thing until recently. Were we in the competition the last year when teams dropped into it from the Champions League? Absolutely typical and any Premier League team must be one of the favourites for the tournament now. Palace lucky again.

We were. But to be fair, we lost convincingly to Roma, who had qualified the same way as us (ie: they weren't a CL drop-out).

 

[Mellotron]

We were. But to be fair, we lost convincingly to Roma, who had qualified the same way as us (ie: they weren't a CL drop-out).

Still, did feel like a particularly strong Europa League that year, when I've looked at the comparative standard of the sides in other years around it.

 

[drew]

So classy he refuses to acknowledge his ex business partner and demonstrates his spat to the world on an annual basis at Brentford?

Wasn't he an employee rather than a business partner?

 

[eaglesdan]

Priestfield - yes
Withdean - No.

And wasn't it Palace that had 12 people turn up to 'save their club' at a protest in 2010?

Could be mistaken, that might have been the second time you went into administration.

I think it was several more that camped outside Lloyds bank in 2010 to persuade them to sell the ground back to us, as current owners, understandably, only wanted to buy the club and the ground together. Mark Goldberg made that mistake which led to admin 1, a dodgy hedge fund panicked to create Admin 2.

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

 

[Wozza]

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

Withdean was filled to capacity, you plum.

Fun fact: the last time local rivals Millwall played Palace in the league, Selhurst was around 60% full. Cheers.

 

[Simster]

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

Withdean was filled to capacity, you plum.

Fun fact: the last time local rivals Millwall played Palace in the league, Selhurst was around 60% full. Cheers.

Let's get some facts sorted out. True, in the penultimate season and season before that, Withdean's capacity had been upped to 9k and we weren't at capacity. But still, something like 11 of 13 seasons saw near capacity crowds for every game. We watched some good seasons and some pretty bad ones too, but it took over a decade for the "we're back in Brighton" smell to finally wear off, to the extent that watching crap football at that place was not really fun anymore for a lot of people.

Whereas @Wozza is absolutely right - Palace's Championship gates were absolute turd for years. The season before Palace got promoted, they were averaging 15,000 - about 7,000 fewer than us. Even in their promotion season it was only 17,000, just the 9,000 fewer than us. Needless to say, their crowds jumped by 7,000 the minute the big boys rolled into town. It's all there:

England historical attendance and performance

Then there's the fun fact I've parrotted on this board since it's inception. In 1979, 51,700 turned up to see their promotion from division 2 in 1979. Literally one relegation and 5 years later (so back in the same division), they were being watched by 4,005 at home to Wimbledon.


They can laugh at our Amex atmosphere all they want, but we won't be accepting any lectures on fickleness from them. Speaking of which, I assume Parish is a lovely man now that they've won a pot - or are those twats dressed in black still moaning at him?

 

[drew]

We were. But to be fair, we lost convincingly to Roma, who had qualified the same way as us (ie: they weren't a CL drop-out).

Might have been different as there was a lot of debate about the 2nd and 3rd goals if I remember, the former not being checked for offside?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I think it was several more that camped outside Lloyds bank in 2010 to persuade them to sell the ground back to us, as current owners, understandably, only wanted to buy the club and the ground together. Mark Goldberg made that mistake which led to admin 1, a dodgy hedge fund panicked to create Admin 2.

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

75 miles each way to Priestfield for a 'home game' to watch a team bottom/second bottom of the football league.

Still more than CPFC2010 take to any away games outside London/Brighton.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Might have been different as there was a lot of debate about the 2nd and 3rd goals if I remember, the former not being checked for offside?

And the gung-ho tactics of our then manager, who almost had one foot out of the door at that point?

He set up wrong from the kick off, then didn't change it and effectively keep the tie alive at half time.

We will obviously never know, but IMHO if Roma had come to the Amex 2-0 up instead of 4-0, we'd have progressed on the back of a rip roaring European night.

 

[Beanstalk]

The harder thing our year was the teams already in it. Liverpool were brilliant and Leverkusen probably the best team in Europe. And neither of them won it!

Yes! It was a remarkably strong year, and we didn't play against a side who dropped down from the Champions League either.

To showcase the quality of that Roma side (and the strength of the Europa League in general), they beat AC Milan home and away (who did drop down) in the QF after beating us, and then were level with Bayer Leverkusen with just 8 minutes left of the second leg of the Semi Final. They were a Champions League level side.

Palace, should get through to the Knockout Phase Playoffs because of the incredibly kind way the league phase is structured, but ultimately they'll still have to play teams like Roma (who now have Europa League winning manager Gasperini in charge), Stuttgart, Feyenoord, Porto, Rangers and Fenerbahçe.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I think it was several more that camped outside Lloyds bank in 2010 to persuade them to sell the ground back to us, as current owners, understandably, only wanted to buy the club and the ground together. Mark Goldberg made that mistake which led to admin 1, a dodgy hedge fund panicked to create Admin 2.

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

To yur second point, Withdean was sold out for 11 out of 13 seasons we were there.

 

[lawros left foot]

I think it was several more that camped outside Lloyds bank in 2010 to persuade them to sell the ground back to us, as current owners, understandably, only wanted to buy the club and the ground together. Mark Goldberg made that mistake which led to admin 1, a dodgy hedge fund panicked to create Admin 2.

Out of genuine interest, why were crowds so low at Priestfield (kind of get it being miles away) and Withdean?

For my own part, I worked 6 days a week during that time, don’t think Mrs LLF would have been too happy if I disappeared all day to football leaving her with 3 young kids to look after.
I think you’ve answered your own question.

I have a question for you.

Why did your attendance go from an average of 16,500 in 2012-2013, to 26.500 average, in 2013-14?

 

[BadFish]

For my own part, I worked 6 days a week during that time, don’t think Mrs LLF would have been too happy if I disappeared all day to football leaving her with 3 young kids to look after.
I think you’ve answered your own question.

I have a question for you.

Why did your attendance go from an average of 16,500 in 2012-2013, to 26.500 average, in 2013-14?

They had only been going a couple of years, it takes a while to build up a following.