[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Bodian]

You make a fantastic recruitment officer. The party will be pleased

Which party? Labour? I am not a member. Having quickly looked at the Lib Dem Manifesto - they suggest similar sorts of things actually.

@TomandJerry has said they are looking for a political home and would like to learn more. The best way of doing that is by seeing how their hopes/wishes/thoughts align with political parties' manifestos / actions. Do you not agree?

 

[Chicken Run]

However big a **** Nigel Charade is and in equal measures his Orange Mate across the pond they have certainly pushed the post counts up of the usuals……

 

[BadFish]

However big a **** Nigel Charade is and in equal measures his Orange Mate across the pond they have certainly pushed the post counts up of the usuals……View attachment 201924View attachment 201925View attachment 201925View attachment 201925

An excellent point, you are right. I will now vote Reform.

 

[darkwolf666]

However big a **** Nigel Charade is and in equal measures his Orange Mate across the pond they have certainly pushed the post counts up of the usuals……View attachment 201924View attachment 201925View attachment 201925View attachment 201925

I'm clearly an amateur...!

 

[rippleman]

I'm not quoting chicken run's spamming of this thread with members' post counts. Is it necessary?

In case you weren't aware chicken run, you can see members' post counts every time they post. (Under the name, then the join date then the POST COUNT. You're welcome) I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but cut the nonsense spamming out eh?

 

[Chicken Run]

I'm not quoting chicken run's spamming of this thread with members' post counts. Is it necessary?

In case you weren't aware chicken run, you can see members' post counts every time they post. (Under the name, then the join date then the POST COUNT. You're welcome) I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but cut the nonsense spamming out eh?

 

[WATFORD zero]

I'm not quoting chicken run's spamming of this thread with members' post counts. Is it necessary?

In case you weren't aware chicken run, you can see members' post counts every time they post. (Under the name, then the join date then the POST COUNT. You're welcome) I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but cut the nonsense spamming out eh?

I believe it's just CR trying to make a bid to be known as NSC's greatest ever wit.

To be fair, he is halfway there

 

[TomandJerry]

Which party? Labour? I am not a member. Having quickly looked at the Lib Dem Manifesto - they suggest similar sorts of things actually.

@TomandJerry has said they are looking for a political home and would like to learn more. The best way of doing that is by seeing how their hopes/wishes/thoughts align with political parties' manifestos / actions. Do you not agree?

Absolutely,

I've yet to hear about Lib Dem positions on those areas, I'll do some digging around

 

[TomandJerry]

What policies do you think will help people in Afghanistan or Somalia?

Hopefully we can use some soft power to help stabilise the areas, doing nothing won't solve anything

 

[Bodian]

Absolutely,

I've yet to hear about Lib Dem positions on those areas, I'll do some digging around

Here's one (a year old, but unlikely to be much different)

Election Watch: Liberal Democrats manifesto promises for a ‘fair, effective immigration system’ | Laura Devine Immigration

In their manifesto for the upcoming General Election published on Monday 10 June 2024, the Liberal Democrats critique that ‘the immigration system has been broken by the Conservatives’. They propose a series of reforms to create a fair and effective system that emphasises dignity and respect

www.lauradevine.com

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Hopefully we can use some soft power to help stabilise the areas, doing nothing won't solve anything

We have no power in those areas, let alone soft power.

 

[carlzeiss]

Farage is running a cult, says ex-Reform MP Rupert Lowe

Rupert Lowe brands his former party "the cult of Nigel," in a BBC Newsnight interview.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TomandJerry]

We have no power in those areas, let alone soft power.

So is the answer to turn a blind eye to the source of the issues? Or try to come up with a method to start solving these issues?

 

[TomandJerry]

Here's one (a year old, but unlikely to be much different)

Election Watch: Liberal Democrats manifesto promises for a ‘fair, effective immigration system’ | Laura Devine Immigration

In their manifesto for the upcoming General Election published on Monday 10 June 2024, the Liberal Democrats critique that ‘the immigration system has been broken by the Conservatives’. They propose a series of reforms to create a fair and effective system that emphasises dignity and respect

www.lauradevine.com

Even the Lib Dems are moving away from rejoining the EU - Blimey

 

[TomandJerry]

I broadly agree with this also.

This is Reform's Policy on this

Stop the Boats with our 4 Point Plan
1. Leave the European Convention on Human Rights.
2. Zero illegal immigrants to be resettled in the UK.
3. New Department of Immigration.
4. Pick up illegal migrants out of boats and take them back to France

Given that the last one can't be done - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxeedx40d8o
The second one is a bit sus as applying for asylum is not illegal.
The first one require you all to give away a whole load of protection.
I am not sure the third one will make any difference.

They are not offering you any of the requests on your list.

Well let's address these 4 points one at a time

Leaving the ECHR without the invention of a British Court of Human Rights being established (or equivalent) would be madness, and as you point out, less rights for all, also the Ireland issue.

Illegal immigrants, as far as I'm aware, have no rights to be here anyways? More than happy to accommodate legal migrants who are needed.

A department for Immigration, doesn't sound like a bad idea to be fair since it's a huge issue politically.

The fourth point I can't argue with since, well, it's illegal

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So is the answer to turn a blind eye to the source of the issues? Or try to come up with a method to start solving these issues?

What do you suggest?

 

[Bodian]

Well let's address these 4 points one at a time

Leaving the ECHR without the invention of a British Court of Human Rights being established (or equivalent) would be madness, and as you point out, less rights for all, also the Ireland issue.

Illegal immigrants, as far as I'm aware, have no rights to be here anyways? More than happy to accommodate legal migrants who are needed.

A department for Immigration, doesn't sound like a bad idea to be fair since it's a huge issue politically.

The fourth point I can't argue with since, well, it's illegal

Doesn't sound as though Reform is your 'political home' does it?

 

[TomandJerry]

Doesn't sound as though Reform is your 'political home' does it?

It doesn't seem to align with my personal beliefs

 

[TomandJerry]

What do you suggest?

The use of our soft power

"The UK ranks in the top 3 across all major soft power indices"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/... ranks in the,UK economic growth and security.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The use of our soft power

"The UK ranks in the top 3 across all major soft power indices"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-secretary-launches-uk-soft-power-council#:~:text=The UK ranks in the,UK economic growth and security.

The Taliban are not interested.