[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[AlbionBro]

I don't doubt SKS is doing a bad job - he's been massively underwhelming. But "less morals than the Tories"? Really? It's like 14 years of utter shit and copious numbers of lies never happened.

I voted Labour, but they have been feeble, so unless I have to vote tactically to keep Reform out I'll probably be going back to LibDem.

I don't think the Tories morals were bad for all 14 years from memories, but Starmer has just been blatantly living and changes his mind from one end of the scale to the other end.
I hope there is someone else in the party who can swing them back round, he is so out of his depth. That's why Farage is wiping the floor with him.

 

[Peteinblack]

I don't think the Tories morals were bad for all 14 years from memories, but Starmer has just been blatantly living and changes his mind from one end of the scale to the other end.
I hope there is someone else in the party who can swing them back round, he is so out of his depth. That's why Farage is wiping the floor with him.

I think it is a little more complicated than that.

And uninspiring and inconsistent though Starmer certainly is, you seem to have forgotten the endless lies, bumbling incompetence, and dishonesty of Boris "let the bodies pile high" Johnson.

 

[TomandJerry]

I don't think the Tories morals were bad for all 14 years from memories, but Starmer has just been blatantly living and changes his mind from one end of the scale to the other end.
I hope there is someone else in the party who can swing them back round, he is so out of his depth. That's why Farage is wiping the floor with him.

David Cameron was a decent PM by the standards set by BJ and Truss

 

[TomandJerry]

I think it is a little more complicated than that.

And uninspiring and inconsistent though Starmer certainly is, you seem to have forgotten the endless lies, bumbling incompetence, and dishonesty of Boris "let the bodies pile high" Johnson.

Or the penalty charge notice for breaking lockdown rules

 

[Simster]

I don't think the Tories morals were bad for all 14 years from memories, but Starmer has just been blatantly living and changes his mind from one end of the scale to the other end.
I hope there is someone else in the party who can swing them back round, he is so out of his depth. That's why Farage is wiping the floor with him.

I don't agree with much of that. He hasn't had time to lie anything like the amount the Tories lied. Farage is winning because he appeals to the the stupid among the working and middle classes. They all think "he can't do any worse than the other two" because the Tories ruined the country and Labour have been lily livered about fixing it, and compounded that with a couple of shocking policies (notably WFA).

But the thing is, he can do worse, and would, given the chance . Suggesting he'll cut waste by £50b is total horse shit. Believing he'll get Brits back to work by raising the income tax allowance alone is more naive drivel. The fact is, more cuts to the public sector will massively wreck the country and reduction in taxes is something we can't afford. All the while ignoring the huge cost of their utterly insane and totally shit Brexit that most of the country want reversed.

They are absolute dicks.

 

[TomandJerry]

Why would people want to work minimum wage jobs?

Increasing the income tax to £20,000 could help tip the scales in some aspects.

"Claimants could earn £3,000 more per year than minimum wage workers, according to analysis by CSJ

Analysis by the Centre for Social Justice think tank found people on the top level of sickness benefits now earn an average of £23,900 a year while those on the minimum wage take home just £20,650 after tax.

A new documentary, Britain’s Benefit Scandal, has found evidence that some low paid workers are now trying to get themselves signed off sick."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/01/sickness-benefit-worth-more-minimum-wage-job/

 

[Weststander]

On BBC1 SE in a moment …. Reform removing Ukrainian flag from KCC chamber. Utter cnts.

 

[TomandJerry]

On BBC1 SE in a moment …. Reform removing Ukrainian flag from KCC chamber. Utter cnts.

Reform doing what they said they will do -

"Reform UK will proudly fly the Union Jack, St George's flag and county flags."

 

[DJ NOBO]

I don't think the Tories morals were bad for all 14 years from memories, but Starmer has just been blatantly living and changes his mind from one end of the scale to the other end.
I hope there is someone else in the party who can swing them back round, he is so out of his depth. That's why Farage is wiping the floor with him.

Starmer has been pragmatic. For the most part has made decisions based on how the country is, not how it should be.
He is doing a better job of being a centre right PM than his Tory predecessors.

 

[Weststander]

Reform doing what they said they will do -

"Reform UK will proudly fly the Union Jack, St George's flag and county flags."

Can’t see remove Ukraine flags in that proclamation.

Why on earth would a Putin admiring party boss want the Ukraine flag removed? This smells more and more like a minority UK party from 90 years ago, fifth columnists.

 

[TomandJerry]

Can’t see remove Ukraine flags in that proclamation.

Why on earth would a Putin admiring party boss want the Ukraine flag removed? This smells more and more like a minority UK party from 90 years ago, fifth columnists.

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To take any and all politics and agenda's out I would assume - it's a blanket policy - not just limited to Ukraine

 

[birthofanorange]

On BBC1 SE in a moment …. Reform removing Ukrainian flag from KCC chamber. Utter cnts.

As if one couldn't despise them more. Bunch of wankers - all of them, and to think people actually vote for such vermin. Shameful.

 

[Simster]

Seriously can't get worked up about flags. That's one for the thick simpletons who vote for them. Putting up a flag or taking one down doesn't fix anything. It's meaningless.

 

[birthofanorange]

To take any and all politics and agenda's out I would assume - it's a blanket policy.

Take out politics and agendas and you're simply left with a faux, free-loading frog-faced 'man of the people' millionaire who cares only about lining his pockets.
Tosser.

 

[Weststander]

To take any and all politics and agenda's out I would assume - it's a blanket policy.

Genocide/mass rape/illegal war isn’t politics. Humanitarian compassion from all kind parties in KCC, at no cost to anyone.

Why is compassion for victims of a fascist war machine, “politics”? I don’t do X and YouTube bots for current affairs lessons.

 

[TomandJerry]

Targeting woke net zero investments ...



"Reform could block “woke” net zero investments made by the country’s largest public sector pension scheme.

The Right-of-centre political party swept to victory in the local elections this month and now controls 10 councils across England.

It means councillors will hold key roles overseeing more than £100bn of assets within the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), which pays for the retirements of millions of council workers.

Around half of the funds within the LGPS have established net zero targets that aim to invest more money in low-carbon initiatives, such as renewable energy."

 

[TomandJerry]

Genocide/mass rape/illegal war isn’t politics. Humanitarian compassion from all kind parties in KCC, at no cost to anyone.

Why is compassion for victims of a fascist war machine, “politics”? I don’t do X and YouTube bots for current affairs lessons.

Removing the Ukrainian flag and having a blanket mandate on flags removes any other arguements about any future flags that people feel should be raised for example, should they raise a flag for Israel or Palestine?

I don't do X or YouTube either

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Targeting woke net zero investments ...



"Reform could block “woke” net zero investments made by the country’s largest public sector pension scheme.

The Right-of-centre political party swept to victory in the local elections this month and now controls 10 councils across England.

It means councillors will hold key roles overseeing more than £100bn of assets within the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), which pays for the retirements of millions of council workers.

Around half of the funds within the LGPS have established net zero targets that aim to invest more money in low-carbon initiatives, such as renewable energy."

They can f*** right off - that's my money and I don't want some some political nonentity financial illiterate messing with it.

 

[birthofanorange]

Seriously can't get worked up about flags. That's one for the thick simpletons who vote for them. Putting up a flag or taking one down doesn't fix anything. It's meaningless.

Of course it doesn't 'fix' anything, but what message does it send to either their own moronic members or the general population?

 

[AlbionBro]

David Cameron was a decent PM by the standards set by BJ and Truss

Yes you're right, but some people have lumped in the whole 14 years of lies.