[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[TomandJerry]

Deporting people to where?
And the fate of people arriving seems to have no impact on the boat crossing numbers.

The solution is to work with the French to stop them leaving France for here.
Unfortunately re-labelling all asylum seekers as illegal by definition is a problem.
Because unless France labels all people (the same people) attempting to leave France for the UK as 'illegal',
it doesn't matter greatly what we label them as.
And if France were to agree that such people are 'illegal' in France, and should be labelled so, then were I France
I would be helping them into the boats to set sail for Blighty with a cheery wave and a croque monsieur.

The trouble with ALL of this is that the Reform/Tory narrative can have only one outcome.
The final solution will be to sink the boats and let them all drown.
They don't want to say that (well some Reform supporters do).
They want us to reason it out for ourselves.

The angrier we get about these foringe bastards stealing our jobs,
raping our women and running amok with machetes,
the easier it will be for us to vote for the final solution.

The Tories fueled this as a distraction, with no real intention of doing much.
Reform, on the other hand are keen on action. Aparently. We shall see...

Rwanda seemed pretty happy to accept immigrants

 

[A1X]

Rwanda seemed pretty happy to accept immigrants

Because we sent them hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers money as a bribe

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Absolutely certain their pitch at the next General Election will be to leave ECHR as this means they can establish a Rwanda policy for deportation without processing asylum applications.

The cost of a Rwanda policy is insane.
To fly 20,000 plus 'illegal' boat crossers to Rwanda: Four billion pounds a year.
How is Reform going to pay for that?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Because we sent them hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers money as a bribe

Total cost to us, 4 billion a year.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

London Stansted
London Luton
London Gatwick

Would not use an airport to back up the argument ha

131 Miles!

 

[A1X]

London Stansted
London Luton
London Gatwick

Would not use an airport to back up the argument ha

London Ashford airport is nowhere near either London or Ashford

 

[pocketseagull]

The cost of a Rwanda policy is insane.
To fly 20,000 plus 'illegal' boat crossers to Rwanda: Four billion pounds a year.
How is Reform going to pay for that?

Think Reform expecting to appeal to people asking your questions is asking too much unfortunately.

Also, what they offer and what they can do might be very different. Leaving ECHR is next on the to-do list after Brexit and they'll promise anything to get there.

 

[The Clamp]

London Ashford airport is nowhere near either London or Ashford

I remember a few years ago my nieces who were travelling on the train from Surrey to some festival thing at Shoreham airport, ringing me up and saying

“We’re at Brighton station but no idea how to get to the airport. There’s no signs”.

No. There won’t be.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Think Reform expecting to appeal to people asking your questions is asking too much unfortunately.

Also, what they offer and what they can do might be very different. Leaving ECHR is next on the to-do list after Brexit and they'll promise anything to get there.

Indeed.

My point . . . . my only point, really, when it comes to Farage....
is he can promise anything, do nothing, blame someone else and his ragtag halfwit followers will lap it up.
Breath of fresh air. Says it how it is.

 

[Guinness Boy]

"Reform has unveiled a series of family-friendly tax-and-spend policies designed to encourage marriage and having children.

They include a 25 per cent marriage tax allowance, which would mean no income tax was charged on the first £25,000 of income for either spouse.

The party also wants to “frontload” the benefits system for children aged one to four so that more parents can choose to stay at home."

How are they going to pay for that? And will they keep Labour’s fiscal rules designed not to bankrupt the country?

 

[Bodian]

The cost of a Rwanda policy is insane.
To fly 20,000 plus 'illegal' boat crossers to Rwanda: Four billion pounds a year.
How is Reform going to pay for that?

By sacking council staff who work in DEI and other policy areas. That will force them to get 'proper jobs' - which will presumably be things like manufacturing or something? Thereby upping the productivity of us Brits, upping the growth and income tax - and there'll be loads of money..... Or something.

Or maybe they'll stick a huge tax on EV cars? And the government currently spend almost £300m on grants for heat source pumps. That will presumably go. Along with the £1bn renewable energy funds.

And of course there will be loads of spare cash when we don't have to pay to look after all these pesky foreigners using our NHS, prisons, benefits, etc, etc.

See - it's easy!

 

[Chicken Run]

My mother-in-law lives in Derbyshire, where Reform now control the CC, and said that she "voted Labour but is glad that Reform got the Conservatives out".

I have no idea how to understand that train of thought.

Make sure (unlikely I know) they don’t come in here and tell people about it….

 

[Bakero]

London Stansted
London Luton
London Gatwick

Would not use an airport to back up the argument ha

You might question the London ones as they're outside of the city. However, East Midlands is called East Midland because it's in the East Midlands.

Really this boils down to the question of does the midlands exist or is it just the north. I must admit, I refer to my partner who's from the midlands as northern but she doesn't like it

 

[TomandJerry]

How are they going to pay for that? And will they keep Labour’s fiscal rules designed not to bankrupt the country?

Scrapping net zero apparently

 

[Guinness Boy]

Scrapping net zero apparently

Really? How much extra will that bring in? And what are the projected numbers for additional marriages and children? Any cost in tracing fraud when people marry purely for the tax break but live apart?

 

[A1X]

Scrapping net zero apparently

Who needs an environment anyway?

 

[Bodian]

How are they going to pay for that? And will they keep Labour’s fiscal rules designed not to bankrupt the country?

Scrapping net zero apparently

From the Guardian last year.

 

[TomandJerry]

Really? How much extra will that bring in? And what are the projected numbers for additional marriages and children? Any cost in tracing fraud when people marry purely for the tax break but live apart?

"Reform UK claims scrapping net zero would save the public sector £30 billion per year for the next 25 years. "

I'm not sure about the other questions.

 

[Hugo Rune]

"Reform has unveiled a series of family-friendly tax-and-spend policies designed to encourage marriage and having children.

They include a 25 per cent marriage tax allowance, which would mean no income tax was charged on the first £25,000 of income for either spouse.

The party also wants to “frontload” the benefits system for children aged one to four so that more parents can choose to stay at home."

I can see the spending here but not the taxing.

With the state of the economy currently, there is simply no money to give takes breaks to married people. It's utterly bonkers unbudgeted nonsense that is typical of right wing populism. Like a child working out how best to spend their pocket money.

Front loading the benefits system implies that they will reduce the income of people who don't have a family with children aged 1-4. When Labour are having to resort to very strict restrictions on disability benefits, just to scrap a bit more cash in, this would surely dump a load more benefit claimants into poverty. More unbudgeted gibberish.

 

[Hugo Rune]

"Reform UK claims scrapping net zero would save the public sector £30 billion per year for the next 25 years. "

I'm not sure about the other questions.

Is that written on the side of a bus?