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Nothing to do with JSO. I like the bravery of the guy in the raincoat telling the protesters to “just sit down”. He being at a safe distance from the coach.
Jackthelad
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- Mar 31, 2010
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Why are they so moronic?! Do they really think throwing themselves at coaches
and brainwashing kids to do the same, is going to change anything. You would think they would have bigger targets instead of attacking the working classes.
- Oct 17, 2008
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This is funny:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67312280.amp
“Ms Gribbin requested that the trial take place at the end of February as she will be away.
Judge Snow said: "I am afraid I am not going to wait for you to get back from India."
He added: "If you have miss out things, you have to miss out on things."”
So she asked the judge to delay her trial so she could fly to India? This is the same woman who described herself “the same as Jean Valjean”.
Well done Judge Snow.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67312280.amp
“Ms Gribbin requested that the trial take place at the end of February as she will be away.
Judge Snow said: "I am afraid I am not going to wait for you to get back from India."
He added: "If you have miss out things, you have to miss out on things."”
So she asked the judge to delay her trial so she could fly to India? This is the same woman who described herself “the same as Jean Valjean”.
Well done Judge Snow.
Presumably if the striking miners had managed to keep the mines open, JSO would have been causing havoc to get them closed.
Swansman said:
People taking actions and initiatives for a better world... like miners going on a strike, suffragettes bombing to make their point because words werent enough, people violently protesting tyrannical governments, or fans invading pitches to protest poor owners... always a nuisance to someone, but what would the world look like without it?
I agree with this. But if you takes such action you have to also accept the consequences of your actions, whether that’s the courts if you break the law or direct action back at you if you have impacted other citizens.
People taking actions and initiatives for a better world... like miners going on a strike, suffragettes bombing to make their point because words werent enough, people violently protesting tyrannical governments, or fans invading pitches to protest poor owners... always a nuisance to someone, but what would the world look like without it?
I agree with this. But if you takes such action you have to also accept the consequences of your actions, whether that’s the courts if you break the law or direct action back at you if you have impacted other citizens.
- Oct 20, 2022
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I miss (‘Now and Then’!) Swansman’s contributions to this forum - although his views on some things were a bit ‘out there’ (and in a few latter posts on a specific issue, far less than acceptable) - overall, I largely agreed with what he had to say and for one enjoyed his intelligent discourse on a wide diversity of stuff, knowledge of football and very unique perspectives.
Horses Arse
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Head over to The Shed End then, he popular there!
- Oct 12, 2022
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I agree that on football subjects he was informative, and interesting on many other subjects. However, he really didn’t give Bozza or any of the moderators any choice.
Threads do get derailed less frequently too.
Speaking of which, I’m still pro JSO’s aims, but find their tactics mixed. I’ve seen/heard a lot less coverage of them recently, suggesting that the media have decided not to give to the oxygen of publicity.
tedebear
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This is about where I am at, I find their tactics whilst in the first few instnces it was great and bought attention to the oil / sea licences issue that the government swept under the carpet whilst other topics were in the news. But now they are just harming regular people and that I can't abide, they seem childish and petulant at best as they are not listening to people who want to support their cause, but can't align with their tactics.
Colonel Mustard
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- Jun 18, 2023
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Eh? The media absolutely love the antics of JSO, as you'll have noticed. No, I think they've just migrated to the pro-Palestine protests as it's got a bit wet and chilly for sitting in the road.
It’s more to do with their funding being pulled by an influential and wealthy backer.
His analysis that the Tories (supported by the rabid right wing press) had managed to paint JSO as public enemy No.1 to the intellectually weakest in our society has meant that they have all but reversed critical carbon emission reducing environmentalist policies actively trashing their climate change election promises whilst rewarding chums and donors with lucrative new oil field exploration and production contracts.
This is exactly the opposite of what JSO wanted.
They’ll be back under the Labour government in a year or so. Hopefully, there are enough sensible green policies in their manifesto to dissuade JSO from going after the front pages again.
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- Oct 20, 2022
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And I agree with this - I think most of them do though and are prepared to go to court or prison to pay the price
At least 18 peaceful environmental protesters jailed in UK this year
Ten Insulate Britain activists spent Christmas in jail as campaigners decry ‘power grab’ over right to protest
www.theguardian.com
When any State however (and we are not there yet!) starts indiscriminately jailing people for peaceful political activism - it is necessary to take a long hard look at the degree to which jailing political activists is being used as a tool of oppression as it is in many parts of the world - this issue is CC and we are lucky we still have freedom to protest but it is a lot more restricted than it used to be and one day, we all might want to protest against a government policy that has a deeply negative impact on our lives but find our ability to do so has all but diminished. We can disagree with the tactics, even disagree with the POV but disagree with the right to protest, I believe we must not.
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tedebear
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Completely agree. We must always protect the right to express our views and protest. Its the definition of "peaceful" which is where peoples views diverge. Sitting on a road doing nothing is obviously peaceful, but if you are blocking roads, emergency vehicles, trains trying to get to power stations, damaging private property, and you've done it 20, 30 , 40 times, there comes a point where you are not peaceful to my mind, you're a pain in the arse and affecting the ordinary order of society.
They really are a bunch of hypocrites, still I imagine she isn't going private, unlike the more famous supporters.
The Hermit Kingdom
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- Oct 29, 2023
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Good luck to them. Is this persistent wet weather normal or is the planet already completely finished?
NSC needs to finance some bold yellow t-shirts with blue text ‘Just Return Swansman!’
NSC needs to finance some bold yellow t-shirts with blue text ‘Just Return Swansman!’
I imagine he has withdrawn funding due to potentially being liable for some of the cost of the damage they have done as well.
What did they expect to happen when they were stopping people getting to work, doing damage to property and in a very few occasions stopping people getting to treatment.
Not going to win the hearts and minds of the public, no matter how noble the cause is.
Just Stop Oil block fire engine as man rushing kid to A&E begs to be let through
Frustrated motorists confronted the Just Stop Oil campaigners in Knightsbridge, London, as the Met Police confirmed 28 more arrests were made, bringing the total to more than 300 in 11 days
www.mirror.co.uk
Labour have already said they won't be undoing certain Tory policies.