[Albion] Manchester United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[chaileyjem]

Confession: I actually quite like Mark Goldbridge. I started off thinking he’s a figure of fun but he’s grown on me. Yes he’s a bit irrational; yes he’s a Man United fan. But I love the way he wears his heart on his sleeve, and I think his verbal wordsmithery really impressive. He’s also usually quite fair towards skilled opponents. If you’ve not come across his work, check out YouTube. The Liverpool 0-7 is a highlight.

He’s more self deprecating than he gets credit for . As for the live reaction shots - then are they any different to how Neville, Carragher, Wright often react when captured on camera. Or any less delusional ? Sure he’s more sweary and binary and Partridge but he the audience lap it up.

In amidst the theatre there’s also some smarter insight. He’s acknowledged how Albion perform and why for months for example.
It’s also quite skill to host hours of entertaining broadcasting on a Saturday. He does a couple of YouTube streams and also a show on Talk Radio to millions of watchers/listeners. I like him too.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

He's also fuming that their goal was disallowed, saying that the technology isn't there to be 100% sure the ball is out. It's clearly out! The guy's a bellend.

Yes he is being a bellend about it, but I do have a little sympathy with him on this point.

From the best angle we have it looks to be out.
That angle is pretty close to being directly in line so is probably correct.
However it is feasible that if the angle is slightly pitchside to the ball, then that would give a wrong impression.
To my eyes it probably would still be out, but you can't be sure with a 2D freezeframe, unless the camera angle is directly over the centre of the ball.

The technology exists to take any element of doubt from this.
Why not just extend the goal-line tech to cover the full width of the touchline?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Is he? I don't think many people are saving that shot form Welbs, don't think anyone is saving the close range shot from Gross. Pedros maybe, but that wasn't far out either, and you couldn't read where it was going to go. Great save to stop Fati though.

Second goal in the corner closet to him and slow to get down - maybe I am being harsh on this? But I think a top keeper can do better.

Third goal he doesn't move his feet, dives with both hands which reduces reach, the ball is nowhere near the corner and goes through his hands

Before yesterday his supposed world class kicking has been hoof it forward and into touch

He should have done better for Rices goal, fell over for one of the Forest goals, got away with clattering a wolves player in the last minute and lobbed from the half way line in a preseason friendly

His reaction time and foot work seem very poor.

They paid £45 million to downgrade from De Gea

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

He’s more self deprecating than he gets credit for . As for the live reaction shots - then are they any different to how Neville, Carragher, Wright often react when captured on camera. Or any less delusional ? Sure he’s more sweary and binary and Partridge but he the audience lap it up.

In amidst the theatre there’s also some smarter insight. He’s acknowledged how Albion perform and why for months for example.
It’s also quite skill to host hours of entertaining broadcasting on a Saturday. He does a couple of YouTube streams and also a show on Talk Radio to millions of watchers/listeners. I like him too.

He's a bit unhinged when it comes to United, but he is more rounded when it comes to over clubs.

He's miles ahead of melts like Rory Jennings

 

[Uh_huh_him]

And once we’d done it Ten Hag couldn’t counter how we played. Difference between a good manager and a great one. I am convincing myself that RDZ may already be a better manager than Pep.

I think it's pointless comparing managers.
Would Pep get better results from our squad? Would RDZ improve City?
Maybe is the only answer either side could come up with.

Regardless of that, he clearly is an elite manager, with a comparable (possibly greater) obsession with the game.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Crikey. A 4+1 contract for a then 30 year old, £18m a year wages. What is it with their > £300k a week wages?

That was a knee jerk signing after the Albion won at OT in August 22. Solidified DM, but staid football was then ensured. Like Fabinho and Henderson it appears the legs are going.

Real Madrid let players leave for good reason.

There is zero planning at the club, they used to sign big players high fees, but they also used to fit into the system and club.

They also used to sign/bring through a core of younger players

What is the plan now?

It's hilarious.

 

[RandyWanger]

I didn't have to fast forward MOTD. Although as the wench pointed out, that's because it was ManUre, not Brighton.

 

[Weststander]

As a follow up to this, in the morning we did mountain carting, basically go karting down a 5k hill track in the high Tatras in the middle of nowhere on Slovakia.

At the end we gave the karts in to a bloke who saw my Albion back pack and asked “will Brighton beat Man United today? I hope so!” I told him we would.

This is my level of confidence in our team but also the reach of not only the Premier League but also BHAFC as a brand. Truly global and people in Eastern Europe barely surprised that we’re challenging the likes of United. Wonderful, as was watching the goals just now.

A mate of mine owns a pub in north Sussex, not an Albion supporter but he’s always liked us. In the Amex era he’s always been able to obtain 1901 guest tickets from one of the major brewers.

That’s now stopped due to huge demand, other customers of the brewer literally across the UK are taking them. Apparently they’ve fallen for the Albion [not plastics of other clubs wanting to see ‘their’ club].

An Albion virtuous circle, commercially.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

That game could've been season-defining.

 

[Loadicus Trux]

My dislike came from when they won a few games last season, I think one was the FAC Semi. Alex Crook was another southern Manure fan who was irritating at that time. There’s nothing worse than arrogant Manure celebs ….. James Nesbitt, Eamonn Holmes, Mick Hucknall. Alex Crook has since warmed on me, he’s fantastic on Albion transfer news, a rarity he just deals in facts and credible rumours, he seems to have grown up!

The 7-0 was a funny moment, I thought I’d exhausted the vids, Neville and Keane my highlights. I’ll check that out, thank you. The Peter Drury match highlights is a thing of beauty ….. love him.

Gary Davies is the one who I have a problem with. When United beat us a couple of seasons ago, he was going on and on about it, replaying commentary of the goals and all sorts. OK, fair enough. Every time we've beaten them no mention at all. Mmm.

 

[Weststander]

Gary Davies is the one who I have a problem with. When United beat us a couple of seasons ago, he was going on and on about it, replaying commentary of the goals and all sorts. OK, fair enough. Every time we've beaten them no mention at all. Mmm.

As a R1 listener in the 80’s, I can’t remember him ever mentioning football at all. Strange that.

Just his inane introductions on repeat of Nik Kershaw.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

As a R1 listener in the 80’s, I can’t remember him ever mentioning football at all. Strange that.

Just his inane introductions on repeat of Nik Kershaw.

Wouldn't It Be Good if he was a bit more gracious in defeat against the mighty Seagulls?

 

[Dick Head]

 

[Billy in Bristol]

Look past the clickbait headline...lots of positive comments on the club.

 

[Eric the meek]

Not sure if it's been mentioned before but all of our goals were real quality, but they all came from square balls.

For each goal, the provider had several options to choose from.

 

[A1X]

I like on the MOTD highlights there’s a guy on the Pedro goal in the home end wearing a half and half scarf videoing the celebration on his phone, makes a change to see that for us against a big team and not the other way round

 

[Seagull58]

Look past the clickbait headline...lots of positive comments on the club.

"You've got a player on loan from Barcelona who can't even get in the side".

 

[Happy Exile]

Yesterday was my first visit to Old Trafford and it's made me reflect a bit about Man United as a club. They seem utterly dragged down by their past. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way - if you had the legacy and history and success they had you'd celebrate it, but it seems to be an enormous anchor on them moving forward. Where our past is a springboard for the present and future, theirs is a weight that drags them down.

Arsenal had it for a bit maybe, but have managed to shake it off now - after yesterday I can't see Man United doing the same because they are so hooked on their history. The banners around the ground are all Law, Best, Charlton, Fergie and successes from over a decade ago. Munich is of course rightly commemorated and remembered too. Outside the ground it's still about the treble, the half and half scarf sellers are also doing a roaring trade in scarves celebrating Cantona, Keane, Ronaldo, Fergie...I didn't see anything at all about the present except the banner on the front of the stadium that's as much about the shop as anything else.

Then the announcer shoehorning in every time they could the "theatre of dreams" and "best club in the world" as if they are trying to convince fans who have only marginally seen more success than Leicester since Fergie left that nothing has changed. You can hear it on the phone-ins, and talking to their fans too -"this is Manchester United...we shouldn't be like this..." and the enormous levels of entitlement about decisions, about their players, about the manager.

I've got a United supporting colleague (actually from Manchester) who says he's never known their fans so deflated as now and he's noticed the number of overseas fan groups being welcomed each game is dropping season after season. He's genuinely concerned that the likes of Aston Villa, us, "even Spurs" are the new world order of football and Man United and Chelsea never realised how good they had it. I think he might have a point.

 

[dwayne]

Yesterday was my first visit to Old Trafford and it's made me reflect a bit about Man United as a club. They seem utterly dragged down by their past. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way - if you had the legacy and history and success they had you'd celebrate it, but it seems to be an enormous anchor on them moving forward. Where our past is a springboard for the present and future, theirs is a weight that drags them down.

Arsenal had it for a bit maybe, but have managed to shake it off now - after yesterday I can't see Man United doing the same because they are so hooked on their history. The banners around the ground are all Law, Best, Charlton, Fergie and successes from over a decade ago. Munich is of course rightly commemorated and remembered too. Outside the ground it's still about the treble, the half and half scarf sellers are also doing a roaring trade in scarves celebrating Cantona, Keane, Ronaldo, Fergie...I didn't see anything at all about the present except the banner on the front of the stadium that's as much about the shop as anything else.

Then the announcer shoehorning in every time they could the "theatre of dreams" and "best club in the world" as if they are trying to convince fans who have only marginally seen more success than Leicester since Fergie left that nothing has changed. You can hear it on the phone-ins, and talking to their fans too -"this is Manchester United...we shouldn't be like this..." and the enormous levels of entitlement about decisions, about their players, about the manager.

I've got a United supporting colleague (actually from Manchester) who says he's never known their fans so deflated as now and he's noticed the number of overseas fan groups being welcomed each game is dropping season after season. He's genuinely concerned that the likes of Aston Villa, us, "even Spurs" are the new world order of football and Man United and Chelsea never realised how good they had it. I think he might have a point.

Yer when you put it like that it's quite miraculous that man u are still as big and popular as they are.

 

[Acker79]

Can anyone answer this, did we (some of us discussing) put a clause in RDZ contract that he can’t leave mid season but is free to move during the summer?

I believe it was reported that there is a buy out clause in his contract that only comes into effect during the season. So he can leave during the season, but it would cost the club that want him. If he moves during the summer, it won't cost them.