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[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Brentford *** Official Match Thread ***



Weststander

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Dunk was out jumped/muscled by Jansson for their 1st and looked to be playing all the Brentford players onside for their 3rd. A bad day for him but I’m sure he’ll be back to his brilliant best on Tuesday. Oh - and that headed miss. He needs to start finishing some of those if we want to qualify for Europe.
For years he’s seems to miss one of those per game, 90% of the time over the crossbar.
 




GrossTurn

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I'm sure I have seen defenders on last line of defence being red carded for stopping the ball going in?
Indeed - and I can’t say I’ve ever heard “double jeopardy” referred to in relation to these types of instances.

Wasn’t sure if anyone knew exactly how referees are supposed to apply that rule (assuming it’s not just something we think is in the laws of the game but actually isn’t).
 


Triggaaar

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I always thought the double jeopardy rule applied predominantly to goalkeepers bringing attackers down when they’re through on goal (and inside the box)? Rather than it being a penalty, red card and a forced substitution, it’s now just a penalty (and often a yellow depending on how intentional the “bringing down” was).

I have zero idea how it applies to defenders handling the ball for a clear goalscoring opportunity, if it even does?
Well we know it's a red card for a handball that stops the ball going in the net (see Willian vs utd, or Suarez for Uraguay vs Ghana). In our case the ball hadn't got that far, the ball only had the keeper to beat - I don't see how that's less bad that when a striker is pulled down to stop them having a shot against a keeper.
 


Triggaaar

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Dunk was out jumped/muscled by Jansson for their 1st

We can agree he was out something'd for their 1st - I thought it was more that Jansson read the flight of the ball and ran towards it, getting ahead of Dunk, who stood their waiting for it. Dunk should have also been running at it.
 


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If it prevents a goslscoring opportunity, then it should be a red. Willian got sent off for Fulham for this in their semi final . Unfortunately this is a subjective decision by the ref as to whether the ball was going in
There is a difference - in William case he was on the goal line with noone else to save it. In Brentford case Raya was behind the player. It's marginal but VAR would not have overturned it.
 




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Dunk was out jumped/muscled by Jansson for their 1st and looked to be playing all the Brentford players onside for their 3rd. A bad day for him but I’m sure he’ll be back to his brilliant best on Tuesday. Oh - and that headed miss. He needs to start finishing some of those if we want to qualify for Europe.
I think there first was Jannsson coming from behind him so his big crime was not being aware of runners. The second one was just mad. Even De Zerbi said he didn't understand it. I'm afraid to say it seemed like the team were just not concentrating after a big celebration of the equaliser. (Guilty of it myself as i was still admiring Mitomas finish on the big screen as Toney raced through).

Dunk should definitely have scored but the big one for me was Colwill's. He seemed to be right up and over the ball perfectly but somehow still headed it over. Think it must have come off the top of his head.
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

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I couldn't quite put my finger on it last night but Frank's post match interview had me thinking, who did he remind me of? A good night's sleep answered this....

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Triggaaar

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There is a difference - in William case he was on the goal line with noone else to save it

Yes of course, but what about when Murray was sent of against Wednesday?

The fact is, the defender actually dived across the shot to save it. I think it's a definite red card.
 


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Dunk was out jumped/muscled by Jansson for their 1st and looked to be playing all the Brentford players onside for their 3rd. A bad day for him but I’m sure he’ll be back to his brilliant best on Tuesday. Oh - and that headed miss. He needs to start finishing some of those if we want to qualify for Europe.
Dunk was definitely caught out for the first, but the third was down to Colwill/Estupian not deciding who had which player and then letting them run free :shrug:
 












jcdenton08

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Sorry for missing this - was Ferguson being rested or carrying a knock from Ireland?
 






drew

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Extract from the Guardian report.

'It was the least Brighton merited after pummelling Brentford with 33 shots, 153 of which were on target– the highest amount by a team in a Premier League match this season. Every outfield player also had at least two shots for the FA Cup semi-finalists. Manchester United will not relish facing them at Wembley in the FA Cup semi-finals later this month.'

I'm sure it will be corrected as I was at the match and pretty sure we didn't have 153 shots on target!!!
 








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