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[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD



Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
so you accept that language is important to, "so seeds".

so words first, then violence, is that correct?
Like trying to make rescuing refugees in the water, illegal.
Remember the London RNLI getting attacked, and thugs on Hastings beach.

Words and language used are very important.
 




portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,190
We’ll see. Other presenters have made political statements and not been suspended.
Unless you can quote the exact term or condition in Lineker’s contract, you know as much as the rest of us.

Btw, what are your views on Richard Sharp or Robbie Gibb?
Gary has made many instances though, that’s probably the difference. Like Clarkson, he appears to have pushed once too often until ultimately his employers have had their hand forced. Gary’s not been at all clever IMO. He seems to be the last person that didn’t see this coming.

I don’t know the others, nor understand what such What Ifery has to do with Lineker’s own goal. As always in these scenarios it’s not directly comparable or that simple therefore.
 


rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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I’ve posted twice that Braverman’s rhetoric was also the worst thing. I also said that the ramping up of language by both sides leads to a polarisation of views.

I hope I’m right, I really don’t see Albanians or Romanians being beaten up and murdered over this. We’re a fair country (the people, courts, charities, systems to help UK entrants), to me that outweighs the malicious intent by a few knuckle-draggers.

The Germany so seeds was a mass, organised campaign by huge political parties and right wing Prussian power brokers to hate others. Have a look at their evil posters, portraying ethnic groups as subhuman. We’ve have to agree to disagree, I think 1930’s Germany did not look remotely like 2023 UK. Italy, Germany and Sweden have hugely accelerated their deportations of all Albanians and others, often in a very swift manner. Are we saying that they’re also acting like 1930’s Germany?
you missed the chap with the petrol bomb then. there's lots of low level violence against minorities, if it doesn't affect you, i spose you won't see it
 










ROBS BROTHER

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Jan 27, 2022
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Like trying to make rescuing refugees in the water, illegal.
Remember the London RNLI getting attacked, and thugs on Hastings beach.

Words and language used are very important.
People keep talking about refugees. What are they fleeing from? France? I understand that you might not be francophile but really the people in question could have secured asylum in any of the many countries they passed through. I also understand that they would prefer Britain to the EU
Fine just apply legally and don't try illegal entry
 






portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
17,190
On the contrary.

He knew exactly what he was doing. With a single tweet, he has brought a dubious government policy onto the front page, highlighted the government's cancel culture,
and has shone a light on a deeply insidious cabal within the Conservative party, to a popular football audience. If MOTD goes ahead tomorrow, the viewing figures will be through the roof.

Do you still believe he is not the sharpest tool in the box?
He’s a clever man. But everyone has an off day. Sure Einstein forgot his keys somedays.
 




Goldstone Guy

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Nov 18, 2006
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I made that point too, I said “had he said the word Nazis he would have been sacked for gross misconduct” No contest. He didn’t, but he most definitely meant the Nazis by saying “1930s Germany” so I think it’s fine to call it for what he’s actually referring to. Not to make any argument stronger. Just to tell the truth, something the Nazis didn’t like either so I’m not going there myself too. Anyone, including Lineker, claiming they meant 1930s Germany before January 1933 is being disingenuous. That won’t wash, I’m afraid. Bit like Superior orders. Which is apt really. :)

He’s human. He’s f***ed up. He’s allowed to. He’s also allowed to retract and/or apologise. However we don’t live in an age where anyone does so die on his hill of choosing he must. Least he’s got Wrighty for company. Celebrity ego’s eh?
Bullshit. He criticised the government and must be silenced. If you don't think that's scary then in my opinion there's something wrong.
 








rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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Like trying to make rescuing refugees in the water, illegal.
Remember the London RNLI getting attacked, and thugs on Hastings beach.

Words and language used are very important.
some people haven't seen it tho', so it doesn't exist
 








SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
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did he flick your ears at school?
Libel if written , but possibly no case to answer!

Lineker has played the hand he wanted to, deliberately referencing 30’s Germany - could anything else possibly get this much traction? We don’t know what’s said behind closed doors and why exactly he’s not on MOTD but this is clearly something he feels very strongly about and not being on MOTD certainly suits his current agenda and extends his news cycle.
Lineker is always about Lineker, nothing else.

He’s obviously a staunch supporter of human rights, after all he did boycott presenting the World Cup.......

Oh.
 








rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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People keep talking about refugees. What are they fleeing from? France? I understand that you might not be francophile but really the people in question could have secured asylum in any of the many countries they passed through. I also understand that they would prefer Britain to the EU
Fine just apply legally and don't try illegal entry
you've misunderstood the situaution
 


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