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[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD



Titanic

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Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".
 




rogersix

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Please. Do you truly believe in your heart that the UK is on the road to non-Anglo Saxons facing murder or mass murder for not being Anglo-Saxon?

The outpouring of empathy with Lineker shows a kind nation. The last EU mass survey of black people across the entire continent including the UK, showed us to be the least racist country in Europe. Not the lazy musings of white Europeans guessing stuff, instead the experiences of black people. For every Chelsea supporting racist oaf, migrants we meet in our lives here are appreciated by the vast majority of Brits.

If you really think this is the Fourth Reich, how come we’re free to talk about it, how come Labour are just 21 months away from forming a government?
people are free to talk about it because people are willing to fight for the right; some are not, but still get the right
 










Deportivo Seagull

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It's quite a sad enditement of the state of political threads on here and social media generally that this needs saying. There is plenty of ammunition to slag off the Tories without reaching for moronic Nazi Germany comparisons.
its a sad indictment that Bravermen had to use language that is so similar the language used by the Nazi party to basically cover up the f***ing incompetent handling of the migrant issue.
She knows exactly what she was doing as she is not stupid, just a nasty piece of work. Lineker merely pointed it out and the snowflakes on the right of the political spectrum collectively shit their pants. Wankers.
 
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This is yet another example of the Tories' utter hypocrisy. They have screamed endlessly recently about the wickedness of 'cancel culture' and how it destroys free-speech and careers, yet in the last 36 hours, the Tories have shown that they love Cancel Culture when they can have people suspended or sacked for expressing views they dislike.

And the argument that Lineker should keep quiet due to BBC impartiality is also pure Tory hypocrisy - when Andrew Neill, Jeremy Clarkson and Alan Sugar were employed by the BBC, they often expressed their (Right-leaning) political views via social media or in The Sunday Times, but were never censured.

Will any and every public sector employee soon have to obtain written Ministerial permission before they can express a political opinion which might offend the snowflakes reading the Daily Mail?
 


Jeremiah

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Politics aside. Hasn't Lineker already got form for breaking BBC guidelines on making political statements ?

A yellow card followed by a red card seems about right - if he doesn't like the guidelines he doesn't have to work for them.
 






Peteinblack

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I urge you to write to the BBC complaints if you feel as I do that this is beyond the BBCs remit Linikers comments might or might not be appropriate and he may have insulted some Tories but he is a football presenter and not a political correspondent
Just written as strong letter of complaint to Radio Times condemning the BBC's cowardice in surrendering to the 'cancel culture' Tories' bullying.
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Can we now expect MP’s to drop their adviser roles with 3rd parties, many of whom are political in nature, as they are paid to represent the electorate and not line their own pockets.
I also expect to see all those at the BBC who have links with politicians or political lobbying groups to resign forthwith. The includes the Chairman.
This will come back bite the BBC on the arse.
 
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Peteinblack

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The oldest trick in the post 1945 book. Matthew Syed (a Labour voter) said on Newsnight this week that “like 1930’s Germany” has been reeled out at many a political discourse in post WW2 Europe.
Yet apparently it's OK for the Tories to compare everything Labour says or does to Communism and Soviet Russia?
 




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people are free to talk about it because people are willing to fight for the right; some are not, but still get the right

And none of us, black, white, migrants or Jewish, are being beaten to a pulp for expressing views disagreeing with Braverman or Lineker.

The UK’s a good place. I know it’s trendy to hate on our country. Empty kettles make most most noise, a steady minority who paint the picture of an awful country.
 


ManOfSussex

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It's quite a sad enditement of the state of political threads on here and social media generally that this needs saying. There is plenty of ammunition to slag off the Tories without reaching for moronic Nazi Germany comparisons.
It's a shame the Tories have orchestrated this culture war shit storm so we don't have to slag them off about those things, isn't it Footy G?
 


Lenny Rider

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When you strip this down it’s actually down to free speech. Love him or loathe him Gary Lineker only expressed his opinion, I’m sure there are any number of NSCers whose Fathers, Grandads and Great Grandads fought in WW2 for democracy and freedom.

Was it worth it, when the national broadcasting company is acting as a censor, straight out of the Goebbels playbook.

I hope all the pundits follow Ian Wright’s stance and don’t appear on MOTD until Lineker returns?
 






rogersix

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It's quite a sad enditement of the state of political threads on here and social media generally that this needs saying. There is plenty of ammunition to slag off the Tories without reaching for moronic Nazi Germany comparisons.
language is important wokey. you picked your username in the hope of slightly irritating some people, so it describes the type of person you are. do you see how it works? clever, isn't it
 


Peteinblack

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Politics aside. Hasn't Lineker already got form for breaking BBC guidelines on making political statements ?

A yellow card followed by a red card seems about right - if he doesn't like the guidelines he doesn't have to work for them.
What about if Lineker said he thought Rishi Sunak was wonderful, Boris Johnson was the best PM ever, and Brexit is absolutely fantastic - would you still want him silenced or sacked?
 


Thunder Bolt

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What problems? Everyone’s saying the ECHR will block this and Starmer will take power in just 21 months.

Lineker hugely exaggerated. I’ll mention again that Jews, Gypsies, gays, the left, academics, Slavs and blacks from January 1933 started to face being beaten to a pulp, their windows were smashed, arson, they were ostracised, assets stolen, state posters mocked them, state newsreels spread lies, lies were spread to encourage beating them, they were squeezed out of professions and the arts, the occasional being kicked to death by organised mobs. There was no hope as the National Socialist German Workers Party cancelled true elections forever. I wonder how much of a student of history Lineker really is?
Why do you think the Tories keep talking about leaving the ECHR and having a bonfire of EU laws. Those are my human rights as well.
Fortunately, the House of Lords has already said they will bounce it back to the Commons, which they are entitled to do, because it wasn’t in the 2019 manifesto.
There isn’t enough time to get it through before the general election which must be called by Dec 2024.
 




Rdodge30

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is that slander or libel?
Libel if written , but possibly no case to answer!

Lineker has played the hand he wanted to, deliberately referencing 30’s Germany - could anything else possibly get this much traction? We don’t know what’s said behind closed doors and why exactly he’s not on MOTD but this is clearly something he feels very strongly about and not being on MOTD certainly suits his current agenda and extends his news cycle.
 


pb21

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It's quite a sad enditement of the state of political threads on here and social media generally that this needs saying. There is plenty of ammunition to slag off the Tories without reaching for moronic Nazi Germany comparisons.
Is doesn't matter if it was entirely bat shit crazy or entirely prescient.

He has said something, outside of the BBC, that isn't illegal to say, and now he can't present on the BBC.
 


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