[Football] Marc Cucurella

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Happy Exile

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Been at a work conference this week, got talking to a bloke on a stand, saw his small Chelsea pin badge on his bag so had a bit of a chat about football, and they REALLY don't like Potter or Cucurella. He was nice enough but funny how it was almost presented as Brighton having done one over on Chelsea, rather than the other way around.
 


Papa Lazarou

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Been at a work conference this week, got talking to a bloke on a stand, saw his small Chelsea pin badge on his bag so had a bit of a chat about football, and they REALLY don't like Potter or Cucurella. He was nice enough but funny how it was almost presented as Brighton having done one over on Chelsea, rather than the other way around.
And maybe, just maybe, when we look back with 20/20 hindsight, it will appear that we have.
 


Cowfold Seagull

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Been at a work conference this week, got talking to a bloke on a stand, saw his small Chelsea pin badge on his bag so had a bit of a chat about football, and they REALLY don't like Potter or Cucurella. He was nice enough but funny how it was almost presented as Brighton having done one over on Chelsea, rather than the other way around.
Done one on Chelsea? . . . we didn't ask them to take Potter, Cucurella, or any of the other coaching staff that they nicked!
 
















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Potter and Cucurella will come good at Chelsea . . . given the time.
'Time' is the key in all of this. Their new owner supposedly sold it to Potter on the basis that they are moving away from changing their manager every 5 minutes to a long-term plan, and that he would get the time to implement this even if results were bad in the short-medium term. Everyone seems to assume that's bollocks as he's just a rich Yank who will pull the trigger when things start to go bad, but maybe it's not. Maybe he is genuinely on board with this plan, and is prepared to see it out. If that's the case then I think Potter will be a big success there. But it's very easy to say all this (and genuinely mean it) but when you're getting abuse every game and online every day from thousands of fans who are demanding you to boot the manager, it must be very hard not to bow to fan pressure, regardless of how sure you are about your plan. I guess it depends how thick-skinned you are and how sure you are that your plan was the right one. Time will tell, I guess.
 


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'Time' is the key in all of this. Their new owner supposedly sold it to Potter on the basis that they are moving away from changing their manager every 5 minutes to a long-term plan, and that he would get the time to implement this even if results were bad in the short-medium term. Everyone seems to assume that's bollocks as he's just a rich Yank who will pull the trigger when things start to go bad, but maybe it's not. Maybe he is genuinely on board with this plan, and is prepared to see it out. If that's the case then I think Potter will be a big success there. But it's very easy to say all this (and genuinely mean it) but when you're getting abuse every game and online every day from thousands of fans who are demanding you to boot the manager, it must be very hard not to bow to fan pressure, regardless of how sure you are about your plan. I guess it depends how thick-skinned you are and how sure you are that your plan was the right one. Time will tell, I guess.
In the meantime, let's just enjoy Potter and Cucurella struggling to look any better than as if they were playing at a pub team.
 




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In the meantime, let's just enjoy Potter and Cucurella struggling to look any better than as if they were playing at a pub team.
Yep. Long may it continue.
 


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'Time' is the key in all of this. Their new owner supposedly sold it to Potter on the basis that they are moving away from changing their manager every 5 minutes to a long-term plan, and that he would get the time to implement this even if results were bad in the short-medium term. Everyone seems to assume that's bollocks as he's just a rich Yank who will pull the trigger when things start to go bad, but maybe it's not. Maybe he is genuinely on board with this plan, and is prepared to see it out. If that's the case then I think Potter will be a big success there. But it's very easy to say all this (and genuinely mean it) but when you're getting abuse every game and online every day from thousands of fans who are demanding you to boot the manager, it must be very hard not to bow to fan pressure, regardless of how sure you are about your plan. I guess it depends how thick-skinned you are and how sure you are that your plan was the right one. Time will tell, I guess.
I thought I saw Boehly statement about that which said something like they expect to be in the top 4, but not being in the top 4 this season would not necessarily mean that Potter was in trouble.
He is at risk if he does not have them in the top 4, and fan pressure could make the difference if his job is in the balance.
 


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'Time' is the key in all of this. Their new owner supposedly sold it to Potter on the basis that they are moving away from changing their manager every 5 minutes to a long-term plan, and that he would get the time to implement this even if results were bad in the short-medium term. Everyone seems to assume that's bollocks as he's just a rich Yank who will pull the trigger when things start to go bad, but maybe it's not. Maybe he is genuinely on board with this plan, and is prepared to see it out. If that's the case then I think Potter will be a big success there. But it's very easy to say all this (and genuinely mean it) but when you're getting abuse every game and online every day from thousands of fans who are demanding you to boot the manager, it must be very hard not to bow to fan pressure, regardless of how sure you are about your plan. I guess it depends how thick-skinned you are and how sure you are that your plan was the right one. Time will tell, I guess.
I totally agree.

but in the meantime we seem to be doing ok without either of them! Having been initially dismayed when GP said he was going, I then felt greatly buoyed when RdZ came in and the enthusiasm of Mr Bloom around the appointment was apparent. Should have better trusted that we would sort it!
 




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'Time' is the key in all of this. Their new owner supposedly sold it to Potter on the basis that they are moving away from changing their manager every 5 minutes to a long-term plan, and that he would get the time to implement this even if results were bad in the short-medium term. Everyone seems to assume that's bollocks as he's just a rich Yank who will pull the trigger when things start to go bad, but maybe it's not. Maybe he is genuinely on board with this plan, and is prepared to see it out. If that's the case then I think Potter will be a big success there. But it's very easy to say all this (and genuinely mean it) but when you're getting abuse every game and online every day from thousands of fans who are demanding you to boot the manager, it must be very hard not to bow to fan pressure, regardless of how sure you are about your plan. I guess it depends how thick-skinned you are and how sure you are that your plan was the right one. Time will tell, I guess.

I do believe that Boehly will give Potter the time he needs to build the team & style he wants, he's invested a lot of money into the project, and it would be extremely counter-productive to back out any time soon. The Chelsea fans are more of a problem, as they have a conditioned entitlement, they expect continual success, and if social media is a fair reflection of their feelings they're not happy with what Potter is doing, and seem to have very little patience for the 'project'. In my view the key element in this is the players; Chelsea have an array or international stars, some undoubtedly with strong opinions and difficult personalities. Not being a successful ex-player or a manager with 'top tier' experience, my biggest concern would be that the players lose faith in what Potter is doing. We saw in the game at the Amex that Chelsea's wing-backs, Pulisic and Sterling failed to track back at times, and seemed un-willing to perform the dual role that is required. I hope this isn't a symptom of a lack of belief in what he wants to do because, with the full backing of the owner, of he loses the players, he's toast.
 






Happy Exile

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We saw in the game at the Amex that Chelsea's wing-backs, Pulisic and Sterling failed to track back at times, and seemed un-willing to perform the dual role that is required.
I think I said after the game but it was really noticeable how there were times Potter would shout to players to direct them or get their attention, and they'd ignore him or just glance his way and not move. With us he seemed like an additional player almost the way the team responded and took direction. Knowing what we do - and even more so since that game - that he's a bit thin-skinned at times that's got to be a challenge for him to manage his own response to or he's definitely going to lose the dressing room before he's had a chance to win the fans.
 




Cowfold Seagull

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I think I said after the game but it was really noticeable how there were times Potter would shout to players to direct them or get their attention, and they'd ignore him or just glance his way and not move. With us he seemed like an additional player almost the way the team responded and took direction. Knowing what we do - and even more so since that game - that he's a bit thin-skinned at times that's got to be a challenge for him to manage his own response to or he's definitely going to lose the dressing room before he's had a chance to win the fans.
Early days still. so let's wait and see. I agree though that the Chelsea dressing room is chock full of premadonnas, so getting his methods and work ethic through to them could prove to be a problem, and is essential if he is to succeed.
 


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I do believe that Boehly will give Potter the time he needs to build the team & style he wants, he's invested a lot of money into the project, and it would be extremely counter-productive to back out any time soon. The Chelsea fans are more of a problem, as they have a conditioned entitlement, they expect continual success, and if social media is a fair reflection of their feelings they're not happy with what Potter is doing, and seem to have very little patience for the 'project'. In my view the key element in this is the players; Chelsea have an array or international stars, some undoubtedly with strong opinions and difficult personalities. Not being a successful ex-player or a manager with 'top tier' experience, my biggest concern would be that the players lose faith in what Potter is doing. We saw in the game at the Amex that Chelsea's wing-backs, Pulisic and Sterling failed to track back at times, and seemed un-willing to perform the dual role that is required. I hope this isn't a symptom of a lack of belief in what he wants to do because, with the full backing of the owner, of he loses the players, he's toast.
I hope it is!
 


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