[Albion] BRUNO please read

[smillie's garden]

Clearly if Bruno and his family are receiving abuse then it is totally unacceptable.

What I find bizarre is that the Albion didn't seek to keep Bruno and Roberts on, and it is also bizarre why Potter took them with him. My understanding is that even though Potter took Bruno and Roberts their Chelsea equivalents Anthony Barry and Hilario are still in post.

Hilario is still listed as goalkeeping coach, Anthony Barry as one of the 4 1st Team Assistant Coaches along with Reid, Hamberg and Bruno.

Bruno must be the highest paid cone manager in world football.

My take on Potter bringing Bruno with him is that perhaps he has an exceptional relationship with Cucu, given that they are both Catalan. It stands to reason that GP sees having MC performing for his new club like he did for us as a top priority. I imagine someone has mentioned that on here, but I've largely been avoiding this and other BHA related social media, as people spout a lot of sh1t when they're emotional.

Albion need to get a Spanish speaking coach in pronto, btw, given how much we've invested in Spanish speaking lads.

Shame on those abusing Bruno. He'll always be an Albion legend.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

Any abuse is unwarranted and should cease.
However, actions have consequences and when you are a relatively public figure and recognisable and contactable by a large number of people, it's likely that a small number will abuse you if you upset them. It's not right but it happens. It was entirely predictable.
As stated above he could cease using social media. Living in Brighton makes direct abuse a problem (I am not sure if this has actually happened).
My personal opinion is that he should have shown the club more loyalty than he did and on balance it is probably the wrong move for him. I do see that its not a clear cut decision. Again he will have to live with the consequences of that decision.
I do feel sorry for any of his family impacted by this.

You are right when you say 'it's not right'.

But most of what you say is just plain wrong. Your 'actions have consequences' comment suggests he deserves it in some way.

And why should he cease using social media. I've no idea how many followers he has 10's of thousands I would guess ... so why should a small number of mindless idiots stop him communicating with decent people??

 

[Bozza]

It’s disappointing the club couldn’t find something managing the youth as I think Bruno would be a great role model for them. Having said that, I’m not aware of any roles available.

I think Bruno's ambitions are somewhat higher than "managing the youth" right now. From where he was (let alone where he has gone to), that would be somewhat of a step backwards.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Clearly if Bruno and his family are receiving abuse then it is totally unacceptable.

What I find bizarre is that the Albion didn't seek to keep Bruno and Roberts on, and it is also bizarre why Potter took them with him. My understanding is that even though Potter took Bruno and Roberts their Chelsea equivalents Anthony Barry and Hilario are still in post.

Hilario is still listed as goalkeeping coach, Anthony Barry as one of the 4 1st Team Assistant Coaches along with Reid, Hamberg and Bruno.

Bruno must be the highest paid cone manager in world football.

I suspect the yank will have to dip his hand into his pocket again to get shot of the riffraff.

 

[Hamilton]

I have some information to share that has come from a source very close to Bruno . I can’t tell you who , but it is a very close source to him and this is not speculation by me this is factual . This information is first hand .

Bruno did not wish to leave the club but he understandably could not be given any guarantees that whoever the new manager is would want to keep him in his senior coaching role . Bruno’s ultimate aim is to become a manager in his own right . Because if this he decided it was best to accept the offer to move with Potter along with the increased financial offer which was too good to turn down .

Ok that bit is probably not anything that most fans couldn’t guess however the next bit is the most important -

Bruno has been receiving a lot of abuse since his decision to move as well as death threats and whilst Bruno and his family are still living in Brighton , they are seriously considering whether they should move out of our city because of the amount and level of abuse .

I want to say that as Brighton fans , we are far better than this and no one should be directing any abuse towards him full stop .

I was ashamed when I heard this . I respectfully ask that if anyone knows anyone that is in any way involved in this abuse that they speak to them and make them aware that it needs to stop immediately. It is completely unacceptable.

Thank you for reading .

Death threats?

Who the **** are these retards?

Jesus wept.

 

[Machiavelli]

Clearly if Bruno and his family are receiving abuse then it is totally unacceptable.

What I find bizarre is that the Albion didn't seek to keep Bruno and Roberts on, and it is also bizarre why Potter took them with him. My understanding is that even though Potter took Bruno and Roberts their Chelsea equivalents Anthony Barry and Hilario are still in post.

Hilario is still listed as goalkeeping coach, Anthony Barry as one of the 4 1st Team Assistant Coaches along with Reid, Hamberg and Bruno.

Bruno must be the highest paid cone manager in world football.

How do you know the club didn't try to keep them, out of interest?

I'm not sure "cone manager" is entirely accurate. On 5Live's Monday Night Club this week, Dan Burn spoke about how Bruno had assumed responsibility for most day-to-day training sessions the Albion squad went through.

Ben Roberts seems to be regarded as one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the country if not the world. If he is, it's no surprise that Potter wanted to take him along too.

I was going to post the exact same based on listening to Monday Night Club, in which BDB (pretty much reinforced by Murray) laid out that all the team perform specific yet vital roles, stressing the importance each provides to the whole, rather than hierarchically valued.

 

[Bozza]

Interesting and relevant bit in the Sean Dyche interview posted on this thread >>> https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?396674-Sean-Dyche-insight-into-management

He talks about how he'd try to take the same coaches with him to a new job because he knows how they operate, and he has surety that they work well together as a team.

Given what Potter was stepping into, it's understandable he wanted to be completely surrounded by those he knew he had already enjoyed success with. He would have wanted to de-risk his big move as much as he could.

 

[Machiavelli]

By leaving and getting experience at another club and working with different players, he’s actually giving himself a better chance of returning one day as our manager. He’s now working out of his Brighton comfort zone even if he is working with the same coaching team.

On the subject of death treats etc, anyone making them should take a long hard look in the mirror, hopefully these twats are caught and made an example of. Bruno’s only loyalty is to himself and his family and doing whatever he feels is right for them, he served us well for over 10 years, treating him as anything other than the decent bloke, and legend, he clearly is, is wrong.

I'm yet to think in such a way but, when I do, it's 'because I'm worth it'.

 

[Machiavelli]

My take on Potter bringing Bruno with him is that perhaps he has an exceptional relationship with Cucu, given that they are both Catalan. It stands to reason that GP sees having MC performing for his new club like he did for us as a top priority. I imagine someone has mentioned that on here, but I've largely been avoiding this and other BHA related social media, as people spout a lot of sh1t when they're emotional.

Albion need to get a Spanish speaking coach in pronto, btw, given how much we've invested in Spanish speaking lads.

Shame on those abusing Bruno. He'll always be an Albion legend.

My take on it is that GP rated BR and Bruno very highly and wanted them both in the team at Chelsea.

 

[portlock seagull]

Death threats? WTF?!!! Seems a very modern thing, presuming no one is saying this to face and it’s cyber warriors using social media (which case he should report to police although frankly we all know it’s not serious, just young idiots enabled by modern technology to act like cowards)

 

[Swansman]

Any abuse is unwarranted and should cease.
However, actions have consequences and when you are a relatively public figure and recognisable and contactable by a large number of people, it's likely that a small number will abuse you if you upset them. It's not right but it happens. It was entirely predictable.
As stated above he could cease using social media. Living in Brighton makes direct abuse a problem (I am not sure if this has actually happened).
My personal opinion is that he should have shown the club more loyalty than he did and on balance it is probably the wrong move for him. I do see that its not a clear cut decision. Again he will have to live with the consequences of that decision.
I do feel sorry for any of his family impacted by this.

This is the same "it is wrong but..." take Guinness Boy had when he was trying to justify the note on the door last week, and it is utterly wrong and embarrassing.

It is horseshit. Both your reaction and GBs "How do you think AC Milan Ultras would react to an AC Milan legend moving to Juve after six games of the best season they've ever seen along with every first team coach? Brighton fans are way too nice a lot of the time" are absolutely shit takes despite wrong in a sentence that it is wrong. Luckily for you I don't have any power here because I would ban you permanently. You're part of the problem, just as several other NSC members were last week. Don't deflect it to Twitter or Instagram. Sure, no death threats here, but plenty of pure hatred and acceptance towards unacceptable actions. It was truly embarrassing to watch.

I hope for the future some lessons have been learned.

 

[GT49er]

I'm sure the club could and would have found him an ongoing role of some sort - but obviously coudn't guarantee the same role with a new manager coming in, so career-wise it made sense for him to move and stay with a (management) team he'd bought into. Shame for us, but........................

Out of interest, what was his role and position in the hierachy pre-Potter? Did Potter give him the role, or just accept Bruno already being in the role?

 

[Affy]

Whilst I, like many other I suspect, was disappointed and a bit angry about Bruno et al leaving, I’d never in a million years consider abusing him for it. Venting frustrations and feelings on a moderated forum, by all means, sending and form of hateful abuse to anyone is unacceptable, cowardly and should be illegal. Incredible to me that. In this day and age, it happens. Tech companies and the government and police need to make it zero tolerance.

 

[Rookie]

A club statement confirming the above could help Bruno a lot. I can't really see why it would harm the club to make it either, certainly not to the extent that it would be comparable to Bruno receiving threats.

I also hope that Bruno realises that these threats are not a reflection on 99% of Brighton fans but instead a braindead minority.

Hopefully once our new manager and their coaching team are in place all this nonsense will stop.

They did - https://www.brightonandhovealbion.c...tional-farewell-message-to-albion-supporters/

People will still be idiots despite what the club says or does

 

[Weststander]

This is the same "it is wrong but..." take Guinness Boy had when he was trying to justify the note on the door last week, and it is utterly wrong and embarrassing.

It is horseshit. Both your reaction and GBs "How do you think AC Milan Ultras would react to an AC Milan legend moving to Juve after six games of the best season they've ever seen along with every first team coach? Brighton fans are way too nice a lot of the time" are absolutely shit takes despite wrong in a sentence that it is wrong. Luckily for you I don't have any power here because I would ban you permanently. You're part of the problem, just as several other NSC members were last week. Don't deflect it to Twitter or Instagram. Sure, no death threats here, but plenty of pure hatred and acceptance towards unacceptable actions. It was truly embarrassing to watch.

I hope for the future some lessons have been learned.

We could all be nicer. You too can bitchy and spiteful (on non-Potter matters) eg the UK royals, elected politicians a thousand miles away from you, supporters of other clubs in the UK.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

This is the same "it is wrong but..." take Guinness Boy had when he was trying to justify the note on the door last week, and it is utterly wrong and embarrassing.

It is horseshit. Both your reaction and GBs "How do you think AC Milan Ultras would react to an AC Milan legend moving to Juve after six games of the best season they've ever seen along with every first team coach? Brighton fans are way too nice a lot of the time" are absolutely shit takes despite wrong in a sentence that it is wrong. Luckily for you I don't have any power here because I would ban you permanently. You're part of the problem, just as several other NSC members were last week. Don't deflect it to Twitter or Instagram. Sure, no death threats here, but plenty of pure hatred and acceptance towards unacceptable actions. It was truly embarrassing to watch.

I hope for the future some lessons have been learned.

I thought the same ... although I was a little more reserved in my response in #42.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

We could all be nicer. You too can bitchy and spiteful (on non-Potter matters) eg the UK royals, elected politicians a thousand miles away from you, supporters of other clubs in the UK.

HWT mentioned not being on twitter because of how he viewed it.

I have to say that once again I'm wondering what the heck I'm doing on here given some of the 'bitchy and spiteful' posts (to use your words) by the usual suspects on here in recent days. They just don't stop ... it's the same nonsense on repeat like an old stuck vinyl record!

I don't expect to agree with everyone on here on all subjects ... but when the comments go to the level seen on the provocative thread about what we will all be doing on Monday ... masturbating for example ... I just don't understand what sort of world these people live in! I certainly don't want to be in that world!

 

[Pondicherry]

This is the same "it is wrong but..." take Guinness Boy had when he was trying to justify the note on the door last week, and it is utterly wrong and embarrassing.

It is horseshit. Both your reaction and GBs "How do you think AC Milan Ultras would react to an AC Milan legend moving to Juve after six games of the best season they've ever seen along with every first team coach? Brighton fans are way too nice a lot of the time" are absolutely shit takes despite wrong in a sentence that it is wrong. Luckily for you I don't have any power here because I would ban you permanently. You're part of the problem, just as several other NSC members were last week. Don't deflect it to Twitter or Instagram. Sure, no death threats here, but plenty of pure hatred and acceptance towards unacceptable actions. It was truly embarrassing to watch.

I hope for the future some lessons have been learned.

I think you need to read what i wrote again. I wasn't trying to justify the abuse. I was just pointing out that it was to some degree a predictable outcome from the decision that was made. We don't live in a perfect world. Whether we like it or not, every action we take has consequences. Some of them can be predicted.

 

[Weststander]

HWT mentioned not being on twitter because of how he viewed it.

I have to say that once again I'm wondering what the heck I'm doing on here given some of the 'bitchy and spiteful' posts (to use your words) by the usual suspects on here in recent days. They just don't stop ... it's the same nonsense on repeat like an old stuck vinyl record!

I don't expect to agree with everyone on here on all subjects ... but when the comments go to the level seen on the provocative thread about what we will all be doing on Monday ... masturbating for example ... I just don't understand what sort of world these people live in! I certainly don't want to be in that world!

You’ll find the the same middle aged men (and one woman) who use spiteful tropes about people from elsewhere than Sussex, tend to do hate in general, flies to shit whenever a stirrer starts a hate thread.

The keyboard has given them safety to carry on in a way they wouldn’t face to face with their targets.

Living a life to the full

 

[Swansman]

We could all be nicer. You too can bitchy and spiteful (on non-Potter matters) eg the UK royals, elected politicians a thousand miles away from you, supporters of other clubs in the UK.

Yeah, UK royals, or Boris Johnson, or Vladimir Putin, or Donald Trump, or Joe Biden, hell I've even said bad things about Jesus.

Its not the same thing. Don't pull the ****ing "you're mean to the Queen" thing on this. Bruno is a bloke living in your city. He's not some world famous guy everybody is talking about where every word just disappears in the grey mass - he's just a family father who happened to be good at football, liked your club and moved your city. Just a guy. All the "there's consequences to moving to Chelsea" or "well shrug a hateful note in his home city, what do you think would happen in Italy?" is just ****ing nonsense. All the caps lock shit calling him a traitor, wanker and a judas, and saying "you're not welcome here anymore" in borderline threatening tones... Completely unacceptable and I hope the club is going to take measures against the worst cases, including some of the comments on NSC last week.