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n1 gull
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Green Cross Code Man
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Sad that anyone died, but good that their error is sometimes highlighted so that fewer people die in the long run?
n1 gull
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LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Hard to argue with that sentiment..but you what it’s like at times on this thread ..easily knocked off course
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Booster jabs be made available to over 50’s ….frontline care workers etc..has been announced
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Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Yes I'm inclined to agree. Was merely interpreting the offending sentences into an understandable light.
I wonder if they will open it up to "anyone who wants one" after that.
Having looked at the research, I would be tempted to get a booster.
nwgull
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This is the good news thread, FFS.
I hope they do, but I hope it’s as you describe
(might not be the place for this)
Not against the jab (jab away) but are we going to be in a circle of 6 months fully vaccinated for stuff and then 6 months unvaccinated ?
Great news. I sneak into this category and can't wait for my boost.
My understanding is the big gap that I would have between my 2nd jab and getting a booster means the booster could potentially give some level of protection for years, covid wise.
Nice, I did plan to get it done at some point.
Just not in a massive hurry as it stands
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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No, not at all. It has been suggested, but not so far as I know proved, that the jab starts losing effectiveness after 6 months. Not that it becomes useless.
Billy the Fish
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The thing I don't get: why do people care either way?
If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine and they get ill that's their own problem. The sense of triumph people have everytime one of them dies is a bit weird.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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At the briefing it was explained that after 6 months the protection given by a double jab had declined from just over 90% to just under 90%, and that a very high level of protection was still given. Individually this did not make a huge difference but for the entire population that would result in double the hospitalisations and serious illness and deaths.
There was no need for an earlier booster than 6 months as protection levels were still very high and therefore not needed.
There is not the data yet to say whether a fourth jab or even more may be needed, but the expectation was that the third jab should push the need for a booster to the booster much further down the line, if it were needed at all. The issue is that no one has had a third jab for long enough to be able to say how long protection from it lasted BUT a third jab gave protection at an even higher level than two jabs, and that the higher the protection level, the longer it lasted.
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Andrew Lilico [MENTION=11994]Andrew[/MENTION]_lilico
19739. Down 28% on day-of-week. Even the two-week weekly is down. Massive falls in England now.
Andrew Lilico [MENTION=11994]Andrew[/MENTION]_lilico
19739. Down 28% on day-of-week. Even the two-week weekly is down. Massive falls in England now.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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Not necessarily supporting triumphalism, but in answer to your question (and trying to lever this discussion back onto good news):
Because it's not just 'their problem'. As outlined a few posts ago, the vaccines work, and continue to work, by preventing a farly high percentage of infections in the first place. Thus preventing further, faster, transmission. So getting the jab helps reduce risk to others. Even where infections do happen, the disease will be less severe, thus placing less strain on the NHS and helping protect others.
So yeah, we care if others choose not to get jabbed themselves and get ill, because it means they've increased risk to others around them (I would never force anyone against their will..but I do still care). And we care even more if they actively promote anti-vax propoganda to pursuade others not to get jabbed.
As infections are clearly dropping again, it's worth noting that the likelihood is that there will be another further rise, or at least a reduced speed of fall, soon, as the schools return begins to have an impact (in England). That is already showing up in the Zoe App data. But what seems to be clear now is that while there will be further rises and falls in infection rates, the high % of vaccinated population is making living without (most) restrictions manageable without things getting out of hand. Get those booster jabs rolled out and we should see a largely restriction free winter.
Great news about the imminent booster jab programme, targeting 30m in the UK.
The media eg the Telegraph got this so wrong, even this weekend absolutely adamant that booster jabs would only ever be made available for over 70’s or with severe health vulnerabilities. Dressing up biased editorial as ‘news’.
The media eg the Telegraph got this so wrong, even this weekend absolutely adamant that booster jabs would only ever be made available for over 70’s or with severe health vulnerabilities. Dressing up biased editorial as ‘news’.
It may help any travel plans. Some countries have already announced that will refuse unrestricted entry to those whose last jab was greater than 270 days ago, more countries expected to follow. If someone does travel anyway, 10 days spent in enforced hotel quarantine.