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Will Pompey fold? (merged threads)







Gary Leeds

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May 5, 2008
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I am sure I read somewhere that if a club either went into or exited admin after the last weekend in March then the point deduction would be held back to see if it would make any difference to the club reaching playoffs/promotion or dropping it into the relegation positions. Didnt Boston do something that caused a rule change as well in 2007? Least they ended up dropping 2 divisions overnight :)
 






Seagull on the wing

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Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
Hiow do these cheating clubs get away with it....the points should be from next season... this is because Pompey have been dragging their heels till they saw it was safe to lose the points.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,873
Worthing
Hiow do these cheating clubs get away with it....the points should be from next season... this is because Pompey have been dragging their heels till they saw it was safe to lose the points.

So, let me get this clear... after all their ****ing around, the massive financial **** ups and overspending, the eventual administration and constant bleating ....

They get ZERO penalty...

Un-be-****ing-lievable.
 


Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Honestly. The div 2 sides should take that sh#t house decision to court . So Pompey cheat for years. Rip every **** off that provided services to them, and will be allowed to start on a level playing field with the rest of the division on mich higher crowds giving them an ffp advantage. Sickening.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,873
Worthing
Honestly. The div 2 sides should take that sh#t house decision to court . So Pompey cheat for years. Rip every **** off that provided services to them, and will be allowed to start on a level playing field with the rest of the division on mich higher crowds giving them an ffp advantage. Sickening.

Yes it is.
 




Geriatric Seagull

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Nov 10, 2009
979
Littlehampton
Just accept it - cheating pays if you're Portsmouth. Next season they'll probably expect every opposing team to play with 8 men and give them a 3 goal start. After all, according to their supporters it's only right that they should be allowed to cheat. Let's hope we never have to play them again.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,901
Brighton
So, let me get this clear... after all their ****ing around, the massive financial **** ups and overspending, the eventual administration and constant bleating ....

They get ZERO penalty...

Un-be-****ing-lievable.


You don't understand. I don't see anyone else dropping to a division below when it's shown over the course of a season they are not good enough to compete with the other teams in the division. Clearly these "relegations" are punishment enough, forcing Portsmouth to have to compete in such unimportant competitions as "league two" whatever one of those are. It must be really embarrassing for anyone to have to play there. Can't we all just get behind Portsmouth and support them through this trying time of having to play in a division that is where their skill level dictates they should be?!
 






RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland
Now that Pompey's a Supporters' Trust owned team, and BHA is rising through the leagues thanks to a free-spending multimillionaire, a lot of the Pompey-bashing rings a little hollow....

Put aside the blind hatred of Pompey -- which model is better for football going forward?
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,873
Worthing
Now that Pompey's a Supporters' Trust owned team, and BHA is rising through the leagues thanks to a free-spending multimillionaire, a lot of the Pompey-bashing rings a little hollow....

Put aside the blind hatred of Pompey -- which model is better for football going forward?

The Albion model and the fraud continually shown by Portsmouth FC are a million miles apart.
 






Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,873
Worthing
So, will the FL or FA get sued by Southampton for deferral of their 10 point deduction about 5 years ago?
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,729
Eastbourne
Now that Pompey's a Supporters' Trust owned team, and BHA is rising through the leagues thanks to a free-spending multimillionaire, a lot of the Pompey-bashing rings a little hollow....

Put aside the blind hatred of Pompey -- which model is better for football going forward?

Hugely different. For a start we had our ground stolen. When we rose like a Phoenix from the ashes, we cut our cloth accordingly and played for years in the lower leagues whilst those such as Portsmouth derided us for being rubbish. Then we were taken over by a chairman whose family connections go way back with the club. He invested his cash into the infrastructure of the club. With Pompey, yes they've been taken for a ride, but each time they've come a cropper instead of cutting back, realising they have an unsustainable club, they've simply tried to spend their money on better players instead of doing anything to enhance Fratton Park. Why should they have had that elevated position in the league and cup competitions? Now it seems that they have also got away with something else. Not good.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Now that Pompey's a Supporters' Trust owned team, and BHA is rising through the leagues thanks to a free-spending multimillionaire, a lot of the Pompey-bashing rings a little hollow....

Put aside the blind hatred of Pompey -- which model is better for football going forward?

That depends on what the future of football is. FIFA have their own vision of the future of football, the corporate nature. If you want a successful future in that sort of environment private ownership is working for most of the top clubs, whereas fan ownership generally = non league. The exception being swansea, and in that instance the supporters trust owns 20%, not the whole club.

In which case the ownership model of brighton and hove Albion is so much more than "a free spending millionaire" as you so disingenuously describe it. It is a fan who happens to have the money to invest, a fan who is also a businessman with an interest in the long term health of the club and a desire to set it up to run as a viable business rather than just pump money into it. We are not some richman's plaything, we are not a cynical attempt from a foreign company to expand their brand piggybacking on the popularity of football or the league we are in.

To compare having a rich fan investing in the club to get it to the point it is self sufficient to the owners Pompey had, as if there has been some role reversal is highly inaccurate.


If all your interested in is terracing, cheap day out watching a bunch of lads kicking a ball around with "proper tackling" whe the only people who show up are die hard fans who can reminisce about rain away days 400 miles from home, then the Pompey model is the way to go.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
That depends on what the future of football is. FIFA have their own vision of the future of football, the corporate nature. If you want a successful future in that sort of environment private ownership is working for most of the top clubs, whereas fan ownership generally = non league. The exception being swansea, and in that instance the supporters trust owns 20%, not the whole club.
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Barcelona??
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Barcelona??

The easy answer is its an anomaly, or the exception that proves the rule, or that it's a different country, league, culture.

I'm not overly familiar with their structure. A quick skim over a couple of articles suggests it is a rather unique situation due to the history of the club, that it isn't possible to "own" shares, simply sign up as a membership scheme, and that there are factions within that membership already. The club is hundreds of millions of euros in debt and how much to "sell out" to face growing costs is a point of contention within the group, with the shirt sponsorship deal being quite controversial.
 


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