[Albion] Mohammed Kudus **Signed For West Ham 27/08**

[One Teddy Maybank]

Agreed - I think we're done down the left now, and focus will be on another right option.

Does Igor have the pace to play LB?

Again, I know nothing about this player, but didn’t look the fastest versus West Ham.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I must still have a lingering small club mentality. If he’s that good and has been eyed up by mega rich clubs why would he choose to come to Brighton? Something off to me

I read somewhere his injury record recently hasn’t been the best.

I’m sure someone will tell me it’s nonsense .

 

[SweatyMexican]

Andy Naylor now reporting close to completion.

Has anyone got the plane tracker ready?

 

[Farehamseagull]

Lamptey might have something to say about that.

For how many games will he have something to say though?!

RB should absolutely be a priority. Look what happened at the end of last season and that was without Europe.

Veltman is not a natural RB, he’s a great team man and squad player and does a good job there but is 31 and suffered from injuries at the end of last season. Plus if not needed at RB every week, he’s a good CB option which we might need. And fitness issues aside, Lamptey has not shown he is good enough ability wise for 3 nearly years since his initial injury, let alone fit enough.

I’m not saying it will be easy to find, but if we can get an most Pervis equivalent, that boosts us massively.

 

[Stat Brother]

Andy Naylor now reporting close to completion.

Has anyone got the plane tracker ready?

I can categorically state:-

Mohammed Kudus is not, I repeat NOT, stood outside the front of my house.


Sorry not been out yet.

 

[chaileyjem]

“on course for completion”

 

[trueblue]

Does Igor have the pace to play LB?

Again, I know nothing about this player, but didn’t look the fastest versus West Ham.

I agree it’d be brilliant to have another Estupinan but do Veltman or Gross have the pace to play RB? I’m not sure the old rules apply. Depends on how clever the player is.

 

[Napper]

For how many games will he have something to say though?!

RB should absolutely be a priority. Look what happened at the end of last season and that was without Europe.

Veltman is not a natural RB, he’s a great team man and squad player and does a good job there but is 31 and suffered from injuries at the end of last season. Plus if not needed at RB every week, he’s a good CB option which we might need. And fitness issues aside, Lamptey has not shown he is good enough ability wise for 3 nearly years since his initial injury, let alone fit enough.

I’m not saying it will be easy to find, but if we can get a most Pervis equivalent, that boosts us massively.

Offiah , lamptey , gross , Milner , veltman

I personally think we are ok

 

[Springal]

“on course for completion”

Hopefully not in the same way the Pritchard deal was ‘on course for completion’

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I agree it’d be brilliant to have another Estupinan but do Veltman or Gross have the pace to play RB? I’m not sure the old rules apply. Depends on how clever the player is.

Fair point, but for me it does. Veltman was roasted at Chelsea away very early on and picked up a booking. Experience (clever positioning), is fine until you’re 1 on 1, and it will happen at least twice per half. Then you have decision to make (see Veltman above).

Gross is a great athlete but just gets up and down at one pace. Pervis is an athlete with a burst of pace, that is what we need to replicate on both flanks. Tariq can do it but it’s questionable whether physically he can sustain it.

Before the band wagon jumpers pile in, Veltman is first choice RB for me and Gross is my favourite player. Veltman does an excellent job, but he doesn’t get up and down like Pervis or Tariq.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Hopefully not in the same way the Pritchard deal was ‘on course for completion’

Agree- We said that yesterday in a separate chat…..

 

[Bozza]

“on course for completion”

The first page of this thread suggests that it was before July 3rd that our link to Kudus to light, and it wasn’t The Athletic who revealed it.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Fair point, but for me it does. Veltman was roasted at Chelsea away very early on and picked up a booking. Experience (clever positioning), is fine until you’re 1 on 1, and it will happen at least twice per half. Then you have decision to make (see Veltman above).

Yes, but that's why we have Caicedo to cover back when he gets exposed. Doh!

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Igor can play LB like Veltman (and Ben White) play RB. We like uneven fullbacks where one tends to hang back (a little not constantly) to often form a back 3, whilst the other FB has more freedom to bomb on. Veltman let’s Estupinan (and before that Cucurella some matches) do that. By contrast when Lamptey played RB though, you’d see Cucurella play very differently and more cautiously. More like Dan Burn. Igor coming in gives me hope we might see Lamptey back at times. Especially if Veltman is needed filling in at CB.

As for Kudus, he’s like a Steven Gerrard. A VERY competent top half player on the right, or in a central 2 alongside either a Deep Lying Playmaker (Dahoud, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo type) who are often intelligent defenders but not physical (where-as Kudos is) or else a Ball Winning Midfielder (Caicedo, Javier Macherano, Kante) who doesn’t drive forward (more than 10 yards) in possession as much (another strength of Kudus). However we don’t only want very competent top half of Prem player in one of those two roles. He’s ELITE as the most forward player in a central 3 (think more 4-2-3-1 the central player of the ‘3’ but really more suited to being grouped with the twin pivots centrally rather than the wingers). Like Gerrard he’s very complete all round and 7.5 out of 10 at a lot of things but amazing at sparking something with his drive or sudden burst forward. In a 2 (or played wider) he has more responsibility and does well at the needed role. But ‘in the hole’ between a striker and 2 deeper midfielders he’s freed up to be the ‘free role’ on the playground where the best player in the school takes things on, links play from a place within the centre of the other 5 non-defenders and drifts where-ever he’s needed in the moment. MacAllister did it competently last year but in a more thought out, passing style. Enciso does it completely differently in a more selfish way. Kudus has the ability to replicate both extremes plus everything in between with the physical skills and burst/drive an aging Lallana can only dream about (else he’d still be in the England team).

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Yes, but that's why we have Caicedo to cover back when he gets exposed. Doh!

We’ve been so lucky ( and hopefully will continue to be) with Caicedo. What a player!

 

[Bakero]

Igor can play LB like Veltman (and Ben White) play RB. We like uneven fullbacks where one tends to hang back (a little not constantly) to often form a back 3, whilst the other FB has more freedom to bomb on. Veltman let’s Estupinan (and before that Cucurella some matches) do that. By contrast when Lamptey played RB though, you’d see Cucurella play very differently and more cautiously. More like Dan Burn. Igor coming in gives me hope we might see Lamptey back at times. Especially if Veltman is needed filling in at CB.

As for Kudus, he’s like a Steven Gerrard. A VERY competent top half player on the right, or in a central 2 alongside either a Deep Lying Playmaker (Dahoud, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo type) who are often intelligent defenders but not physical (where-as Kudos is) or else a Ball Winning Midfielder (Caicedo, Javier Macherano, Kante) who doesn’t drive forward (more than 10 yards) in possession as much (another strength of Kudus). However we don’t only want very competent top half of Prem player in one of those two roles. He’s ELITE as the most forward player in a central 3 (think more 4-2-3-1 the central player of the ‘3’ but really more suited to being grouped with the twin pivots centrally rather than the wingers). Like Gerrard he’s very complete all round and 7.5 out of 10 at a lot of things but amazing at sparking something with his drive or sudden burst forward. In a 2 (or played wider) he has more responsibility and does well at the needed role. But ‘in the hole’ between a striker and 2 deeper midfielders he’s freed up to be the ‘free role’ on the playground where the best player in the school takes things on, links play from a place within the centre of the other 5 non-defenders and drifts where-ever he’s needed in the moment. MacAllister did it competently last year but in a more thought out, passing style. Enciso does it completely differently in a more selfish way. Kudus has the ability to replicate both extremes plus everything in between with the physical skills and burst/drive an aging Lallana can only dream about (else he’d still be in the England team).

Well, now you've got everybody even more excited.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I must still have a lingering small club mentality. If he’s that good and has been eyed up by mega rich clubs why would he choose to come to Brighton? Something off to me

Players don’t sign for clubs because they like the style of football and a manager over wages do they

The beginning off that Mark Goldbridge video pretty much nails it - a good team, in Europe and, like it or hate it, a springboard to a MASSIVE club.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

The first page of this thread suggests that it was before July 3rd that our link to Kudus to light, and it wasn’t The Athletic who revealed it.

Maybe that date is when TA first reported it

Presented on the pitch before KO today?

 

[Triggaaar]

The first page of this thread suggests that it was before July 3rd that our link to Kudus to light, and it wasn’t The Athletic who revealed it.

It's mad that publications are happy to print such crap, when it was reported on twatter and then here over a week earlier.

 

[Triggaaar]

As for Kudus, he’s like a Steven Gerrard. A VERY competent top half player on the right, or in a central 2 alongside either a Deep Lying Playmaker (Dahoud, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo type) who are often intelligent defenders but not physical (where-as Kudos is) or else a Ball Winning Midfielder (Caicedo, Javier Macherano, Kante) who doesn’t drive forward (more than 10 yards) in possession as much (another strength of Kudus). However we don’t only want very competent top half of Prem player in one of those two roles. He’s ELITE as the most forward player in a central 3 (think more 4-2-3-1 the central player of the ‘3’ but really more suited to being grouped with the twin pivots centrally rather than the wingers). Like Gerrard he’s very complete all round and 7.5 out of 10 at a lot of things but amazing at sparking something with his drive or sudden burst forward. In a 2 (or played wider) he has more responsibility and does well at the needed role. But ‘in the hole’ between a striker and 2 deeper midfielders he’s freed up to be the ‘free role’ on the playground where the best player in the school takes things on, links play from a place within the centre of the other 5 non-defenders and drifts where-ever he’s needed in the moment. MacAllister did it competently last year but in a more thought out, passing style. Enciso does it completely differently in a more selfish way. Kudus has the ability to replicate both extremes plus everything in between with the physical skills and burst/drive an aging Lallana can only dream about (else he’d still be in the England team).

Sounds like a good player. Shame we haven't signed him really.