[Albion] Mohammed Kudus **Signed For West Ham 27/08**

[Weststander]

Let’s not let him drive down the M25 on way to his medical

RDZ needs to meet his LearJet at Biggin Hill.

 

[chrisg]

Every other transfer I read about, personal terms are agreed first and then the fee with club.
We are doing the opposite here - any idea why ?

WestHam are buying a player from Ajax too and have agreed personal terms already and now working on the fee.

 

[Motogull]

Not at all - the picture shows their marquee signing being wheeled out

That's Roy you plonker!

 

[Van Cleef]

RDZ needs to meet his LearJet at Biggin Hill.

We need to get on top of this. Perhaps one of the posters who volunteer to drive unwanted players to their destination could pick him up.

 

[BevBHA]

It's not the fee on is own. It's the injuries as well. The big fee implies he will be a good player for us, so missing him due to injury will have a bigger impact than others.

Not if we don’t lose anything we already have, if worse case he got injured we didn’t have him last year anyway so we may not miss him as noticeably as a Caicedo or Dunk for example

 

[American Seagle]

Every other transfer I read about, personal terms are agreed first and then the fee with club.
We are doing the opposite here - any idea why ?

WestHam are buying a player from Ajax too and have agreed personal terms already and now working on the fee.

This always confuses me. It must be so called-journalist errors. And I mean so called as they are the ones that make the error. If it was true so many clubs would be fined and worse for breaking the rules. You have to agree with the club prior to speaking to a player. It is obviously false, or the authorities are corrupt and don't do anything.
But my guess is it's big 6 focused social media whore...I mean journalists...who say it to get clicks and what has actually happened is that two agents have casually briefly thrown some numbers about and said "yeah we can get an agreement if it happens here". Not that they have signed a contract like they imply.

 

[Springal]

Every other transfer I read about, personal terms are agreed first and then the fee with club.
We are doing the opposite here - any idea why ?

WestHam are buying a player from Ajax too and have agreed personal terms already and now working on the fee.

It says ‘close to agreement’ and we’ve been working on it since ‘end of July’ so probably happening in parallel

 

[BevBHA]

We beat competition from ‘larger’ clubs to sign Lallana, Ferguson and Igor.

Clever players don’t always follow the money, instead looking at likely game time, the coach/man-manager and with younger players their development.

The clever ones will come here on 75k a week instead of Chelsea now on 100k a week. If they perform and get a massive move that wage at Chelsea or other is closer to 200k

 

[WhingForPresident]

As I read it, we reached an agreement with Ajax a little while ago but Kudus has been waiting, either thinking it over or for other bids to come in. The news today is that he has indicated he wants to discuss personal terms etc. Idk, may be mistaken.

 

[American Seagle]

Not if we don’t lose anything we already have, if worse case he got injured we didn’t have him last year anyway so we may not miss him as noticeably as a Caicedo or Dunk for example

But that money could have bought a player with a better injury record. That's my nervousness.

 

[BevBHA]

But that money could have bought a player with a better injury record. That's my nervousness.

I understand your point. Perhaps that’s the one reason he’s in our price bracket and not the same one as Antony/Mudryk and the reason why we as Brighton are able to sign him

 

[WhingForPresident]

This always confuses me. It must be so called-journalist errors. And I mean so called as they are the ones that make the error. If it was true so many clubs would be fined and worse for breaking the rules. You have to agree with the club prior to speaking to a player. It is obviously false, or the authorities are corrupt and don't do anything.
But my guess is it's big 6 focused social media whore...I mean journalists...who say it to get clicks and what has actually happened is that two agents have casually briefly thrown some numbers about and said "yeah we can get an agreement if it happens here". Not that they have signed a contract like they imply.

I really think the 'agreeing personal terms' before they have permission to approach a player is as simple as a club saying to the agent: "Yeah, we'll do a five year contract, £2m signing fee, £1m agent fee, £100k basic a week, xxx appearance fee, xxx goal bonus etc" and the agent saying "yeah, we would take that".

 

[American Seagle]

I understand your point. Perhaps that’s the one reason he’s in our price bracket and not the same one as Antony/Mudryk and the reason why we as Brighton are able to sign him

That has also crossed my mind. Not getting excited until it 1) happens and 2) he puts in a good uninterrupted season. So ask me next summer. #toughcrowd.

 

[dwayne]

We beat competition from ‘larger’ clubs to sign Lallana, Ferguson and Igor.

Clever players don’t always follow the money, instead looking at likely game time, the coach/man-manager and with younger players their development.

No one bigger than us were in for lallana or Igor. Ferguson yes but he came as a youth player not an established player like kudus in his prime.

 

[American Seagle]

I really think the 'agreeing personal terms' before they have permission to approach a player is as simple as a club saying to the agent: "Yeah, we'll do a five year contract, £2m signing fee, £1m agent fee, £100k basic a week, xxx appearance fee, xxx goal bonus etc" and the agent saying "yeah, we would take that".

Even that would be illegal would it not? It is probably even more vague than that to not fall foul of the rules.

 

[dwayne]

This article pretty spot on I think (maybe cos it has the same opinion as me!)

Mohammed Kudus (AFC Ajax) – Scout Report

There has been a lot of buzz around 22-year-old Ajax player Mohammed Kudus recently after scoring twice for Ghana in the World Cup, while also scoring four goals in the Champions League group stage…

targetscouting.com

 

[Springal]

This article pretty spot on I think (maybe cos it has the same opinion as me!)

Mohammed Kudus (AFC Ajax) – Scout Report

There has been a lot of buzz around 22-year-old Ajax player Mohammed Kudus recently after scoring twice for Ghana in the World Cup, while also scoring four goals in the Champions League group stage…

targetscouting.com

He’s 22. Plenty of time for improvement

 

[GT49er]

Every other transfer I read about, personal terms are agreed first and then the fee with club.
We are doing the opposite here - any idea why?

WestHam are buying a player from Ajax too and have agreed personal terms already and now working on the fee.

Player's a greedy bugger?

 

[The Fits]

He's also a central midfielder. That is where he wants to play. He played out of position at Ajax through necessity (sale of Haller etc) and did well. He's still, despite playing as a winger and false 9 for Ajax, played more games in his career as a CM
We will be signing him as a player who is genuine competition for Solly but he will inevitably end up more central.

 

[Rambo]

Surely the Velt Man has had a word with him. Done deal