[Cricket] LV= County Championship Division One, Yorkshire v Sussex at Leeds, Sep 22-25, 2015

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stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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Early wickets in both games are crucial for Sussex. In reality, I think all eyes are on the Notts game as I can't see us dismissing Yorks for much less than their first innings total.
 




KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
19,995
Wolsingham, County Durham
So today's the day that Sussex need to play their best day's cricket of the season. Will they? I think we all suspect what the answer to that is but we live in hope*



*that Trent Bridge and Headingly are awash with rain for the next 2 days.
 


Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
12,117
Early wickets in both games are crucial for Sussex. In reality, I think all eyes are on the Notts game as I can't see us dismissing Yorks for much less than their first innings total.
Restricting the Yorkies' scoring rate and hopefully some lost overs due to rain at Leeds are crucial.

Our best chance is that they get reduced overs today and bat on tomorrow. In that case we might be able to stay up by surviving two and a bit sessions for the draw.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,308
Surrey
Even if we do stay up, does anyone trust the club to recruit properly for next season? I don't. I think we'd only go down next season instead. :down:
 


GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,226
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
Rain overnight and early this morning, blue skies and fluffy clouds at the mo.

Blue skies in Leeds do not last long !!
 








Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
12,117
Even if we do stay up, does anyone trust the club to recruit properly for next season? I don't. I think we'd only go down next season instead. :down:
Not sure if this is NSC chat or well founded opinion...

I think the First Division is extremely competitive and if we do stay up then it will once again be a massive challenge to assemble a squad capable of doing better (i.e. top 5 rather than bottom 4...?).

There is not that much wrong with our batting. Our batsmen have scored more individual tons than any other county and often in entertaining fashion. This year our bowling has been very thin. Seam attack has been at least two quality bowlers short all year and seeing as we don't have a spinner, and LVC is played in April and September, we are reliant on seam. Hopefully next year we might have Shahzad and Jordan to go along with Magoffin to make a strong "three". Ben Brown's fine season with the bat and gloves is also a huge "positive" that we will hope can be repeated.
 






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
Even if we do stay up, does anyone trust the club to recruit properly for next season? I don't.

Why not?

On paper, this season's recruitment was excellent. A month into the season the side was flying and looking like challenging at the right end.

Injuries on the bowling side and lack of application (rather than talent) on the batting side have contributed to the final sorry showing.

You can definitely question the coaching, but recruitment has not, imo, been the issue.

The lack of a quality spinner is the only obvious gap.
 








Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
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Goff makes the breakthrough! Yorks 65/2
Excellent bowling this morning so far.

I said something similar before, and was wrong, but a big part of me would much rather see Yorkshire's batsmen ticking along at 3 an over WITHOUT losing wickets...

I would rather be playing for a draw tomorrow afternoon (with some sense that the wicket had flattened out a bit) than trying to score 260 to win batting last having just skittled the county champions.
 


mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,470
High up on the South Downs.
Not sure if this is NSC chat or well founded opinion...

I think the First Division is extremely competitive and if we do stay up then it will once again be a massive challenge to assemble a squad capable of doing better (i.e. top 5 rather than bottom 4...?).

There is not that much wrong with our batting. Our batsmen have scored more individual tons than any other county and often in entertaining fashion. This year our bowling has been very thin. Seam attack has been at least two quality bowlers short all year and seeing as we don't have a spinner, and LVC is played in April and September, we are reliant on seam. Hopefully next year we might have Shahzad and Jordan to go along with Magoffin to make a strong "three". Ben Brown's fine season with the bat and gloves is also a huge "positive" that we will hope can be repeated

I disagree very strongly with your statement that there's not much wrong with our batting. Too often the runs are scored when the pressure is off. Few of our players are able to leave the seaming ball outside off stump alone. Machan particularly treats every innings like a T20 bash. Occasionally it comes off to bolster his average. Usually we are two down with 40 on the board. At least two of our defeats would have been draws earlier this season if the batters were less gung ho.
 




stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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Excellent bowling this morning so far.

I said something similar before, and was wrong, but a big part of me would much rather see Yorkshire's batsmen ticking along at 3 an over WITHOUT losing wickets...

I would rather be playing for a draw tomorrow afternoon (with some sense that the wicket had flattened out a bit) than trying to score 260 to win batting last having just skittled the county champions.
I do agree, however taking wickets periodically can slow the run rate anyway, plus the fact if Yorks have wickets in hand later on they might start swinging the bat.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Do we deserve to stay up ?

100% no. Sussex did not win a game in June, July, or August. That is pretty damning in a summer sport. The batting woes are identical to last season and nothing was done. We will lose another batsman this year, will Robinson actually sign someone? Or will he hope to muddle through again?
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,405
Uffern
Why not?

On paper, this season's recruitment was excellent. .

Totally disagree. We had two bowlers with long-term injuries who were set to miss the best part of the season, we'd just released one bowler and had another who was part of the England set-up. To replace those we recruited just three: one of whom had a history of injury problems and wouldn't be expected to play many games and one of whom had never played a first-class match. On top of that, as you point out, we lacked a spinner. So we were short of at least two bowlers.

We lost RHB and were about to lose Matt Prior and made no efforts to replace either - so we were at least one batsman short. That was piss-poor recruitment by any standards.

Yes, we were unlucky that Shahzad missed most of the season but you have to allow for injuries. I appreciate that Sussex aren't a rich county and have to pay Anyon and Hatchett while they're injured and don't have the funds for an extra bowler ... but we do pay for Piolet, Beer and Liddle. We're too small a team to pay for one-day specialists like that: we should have a team for all forms of cricket and pick our one-day team from that. Again, all down to poor recruitment
 






Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Nottinghamshire please just bat and bat. No sporting declarations, thank you.
 


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