[Football] Kurt Zouma

[dazzer6666]

 

[GT49er]

Paws for thought.

Police just pussy-footing around.

 

[Weststander]

Great that there's one body prepared to take some action

It's going to happen.

Chris Packham said in R5's Nicky Campbell show this morning that he's been asked by Essex Police not to comment about their investigation. Can only be one reason imho .... not to prejudice a prosecution.

 

[Weststander]

I may have missed something here, but while I agree that West Ham should have suspended the cat kicker, and that Manure immediately suspended Mr Greenwood, and that Raith changed their mind over Goodwillie, we are still happy to play players that are under investigation for criminal activities. I am not making any judgements on whether anyone is guilty or not, but given the anger shown here, shouldnt we be careful to make sure our own house is in order

Comparing Biss's investigation to Zouma/Greenwood/Goodwillie:

Zouma - the evidence of illegal torture is there for all to see, no dispute.

Greenwood - audio and photos of the incident and aftermath have been published.

Goodwillie - the civil case judge Lord Armstrong discredited the evidence of the rapists and found the evidence of the victim "compelling" and “Both defendants took advantage of the pursuer when she was vulnerable through an excessive intake of alcohol and, because her cognitive functioning and decision‑making processes were so impaired, was incapable of giving meaningful consent; and that they each raped her.” Goodwillie had his day in court, which the judge assessed as "My general impression was that, particularly in relation to his assessment of the pursuer’s condition, his evidence was given with a view to his own interests rather than in accordance with the oath which he had taken".

Bissouma - at this stage, only the police and parties involved know the facts. No one should judge.

 

[Wozza]

Adidas on Kurt Zouma: “We have concluded our investigation and can confirm Kurt Zouma is no longer an adidas contracted athlete.”

No messing!

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

The Greenwood incident is in the hands of the law. Once he was arrested, the media had to stop publishing details.

In legal terms, you shouldn't pass judgement on a public forum either!

Mason Greenwood, as far as I am aware has yet to be charged, making it almost impossible to discuss his situation and alleged crimes on social media .

I take the point about social media, but part of the stuff about all this is that Zouma has not been charged with anything either...... Although I believe the RSPCA has now taken his cats away.

 

[Springal]

Even Greenwood hasn't been charged with anything by the police / CPS yet !

If it was me - for anything like this I'd not be playing any of the players - and if you remember Dunk was still playing / around the squad with his troubles, even after being charged and waiting to go to the High Court. So like I keep saying we need to be careful not to be to 'outraged' by other clubs actions

 

[dazzer6666]

I take the point about social media, but part of the stuff about all this is that Zouma has not been charged with anything either...... Although I believe the RSPCA has now taken his cats away.

He’s admitted and apologised for it though……..

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Police just pussy-footing around.

They've given up on cat burglars.

 

[Weststander]

Adidas on Kurt Zouma: “We have concluded our investigation and can confirm Kurt Zouma is no longer an adidas contracted athlete.”

No messing!

I said to my animal-loving daughter last night, who was gutted by West Ham's $$$$ stance, that Zouma will pay a heavy financial price with the loss of his boot contract for starters.

This imho is an example of corporate image/social media pressure working well. Well done Adidas

 

[Weststander]

Even Greenwood hasn't been charged with anything by the police / CPS yet !

If it was me - for anything like this I'd not be playing any of the players - and if you remember Dunk was still playing / around the squad with his troubles, even after being charged and waiting to go to the High Court. So like I keep saying we need to be careful not to be to 'outraged' by other clubs actions

Difference here - there's clear video footage of the torture.

So everyone knows he's a criminal abuser, regardless of whether legal action takes place.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

Police just pussy-footing around.

I’ve got a feline he’s gonna get away with it

 

[BN9 BHA]

I am not making any judgements on whether anyone is guilty or not, but given the anger shown here, shouldnt we be careful to make sure our own house is in order

But whatabout?

 

[Wozza]

I take the point about social media, but part of the stuff about all this is that Zouma has not been charged with anything either...... Although I believe the RSPCA has now taken his cats away.

You said there appeared to be more “fuss” over Zouma than Greenwood.

I’m simply explaining why coverage of the latter HAD to stop after a few hours - it’s now an active legal case.

 

[Weststander]

You said there appeared to be more “fuss” over Zouma than Greenwood.

I’m simply explaining why coverage of the latter HAD to stop after a few hours - it’s now an active legal case.

Yep.

Once Greenwood was arrested which was in quick time, discussion and internet chat about his case, was deleted or curtailed. Redcafe for example deleted a huge thread, whilst media outlets dropped all mention except robotically reporting he was being interviewed and then bailed.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I may have missed something here, but while I agree that West Ham should have suspended the cat kicker, and that Manure immediately suspended Mr Greenwood, and that Raith changed their mind over Goodwillie, we are still happy to play players that are under investigation for criminal activities. I am not making any judgements on whether anyone is guilty or not, but given the anger shown here, shouldnt we be careful to make sure our own house is in order

Our own house is in order unless you believe in "guilty until proved innocent".

 

[Weststander]

I don’t often bother with these, but, 240,000 and counting.

https://www.change.org/p/prosecute-kurt-zouma-remove-all-his-animals-to-a-place-of-safety-immediately

 

[portlock seagull]

I don’t often bother with these, but, 240,000 and counting.

https://www.change.org/p/prosecute-kurt-zouma-remove-all-his-animals-to-a-place-of-safety-immediately

Think he’s finding out what a nation of animal lovers we are.

I reckon he’ll move abroad, guess Korean League would be his dream move…?!

 

[Weststander]

Think he’s finding out what a nation of animal lovers we are.

I reckon he’ll move abroad, guess Korean League would be his dream move…?!

He’s getting a bad press in France too both from legal authorities and a huge charity focusing on animal welfare.

 

[timbha]

He’s getting a bad press in France too both from legal authorities and a huge charity focusing on animal welfare.

Wait till the Animal Rights mob start on him!