John Catt suing police over secret surveillance

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black & white seagull

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Protester to sue police over secret surveillance | UK news | The Guardian

If only he could have "sat on a folding chair and appeared to be sketching" a bit more often, rather than interfering with our applications to play at Withdean...


An 86-year-old man has been granted permission to launch a lawsuit against police chiefs who have classified him as a "domestic extremist" and kept a detailed record of his political activities on a clandestine database.

John Catt, who has no criminal record, is bringing the high court action against a secretive police unit which systematically logged his presence at more than 55 peace and human rights protests over a four-year period.

Some of the entries record his habit of taking out his sketch pad and drawing the scene at demonstrations. Other entries contain notes on his appearance – such as "clean shaven" – and the slogans on his clothes.

His lawsuit will challenge the power of police to compile secret files on law-abiding protesters.

A victory for Catt, a pensioner who lives in Brighton, would be a further blow to the police unit, which has been criticised for using undercover officers to infiltrate protest groups.

The exposure of spies such as Mark Kennedy, who spent seven years working undercover in the environmental movement, has highlighted the way in which the National Public Order Intelligence Unit has been carrying out surveillance of protesters.

The unit has been compiling a huge, nationwide database of thousands of protesters for more than a decade, drawing on intelligence from undercover officers, uniformed surveillance teams, informants in protest groups and covert intercepts.

Police claim the unit only monitors so-called "domestic extremists", whom they define as hardcore activists who commit crime to further their political aims.

Catt, a campaigner for many years, is one of the few activists confirmed to be on the database.

He says he is "committed to protesting through entirely peaceful means" and told the Guardian he was "shocked and terrified" after he saw the extent of the files held on him. He obtained them using the Data Protection Act.

In legal papers, he describes how the files record the political aims of the demonstrations he attended between 2005 and 2009, "highly personalised" information about his appearance and "hearsay evidence and police officers' opinions".
Peace activists John and Linda Catt tell their own story of being monitored by police and placed on a secret database of 'domestic extremists' Link to this video

At a protest against Guantánamo Bay organised by Sussex Action for Peace on 25 September 2005, police noted: "John CATT was seen wearing a Free Omar T-shirt, he was clean shaven … John CATT was very quiet and was holding a board with orange people on it."

At another protest on 10 March 2006, police recorded: "John CATT arrived in his white Citroën Berlingo van. He removed several banners for the protesters to use and at the completion of the demo returned the same to the van. He was using his drawing pad to sketch a picture of the protest and the police presence."

On another occasion he was logged as having "sat on a folding chair and appeared to be sketching" at a demonstration.

Police tracked his van after noticing it at demonstrations. He and his daughter Linda were stopped and searched one Sunday morning in London by police who were alerted by a roadside camera recognising the van's number plate. The pair had been on their way to help a family member move house.

Catt, who is represented by the London law firm Fisher Meredith, has been given permission by a high court judge to take legal action against police chiefs, as he claims they have violated his human rights by keeping "excessive and irrelevant" secret files on him.

He wants all the entries concerning him to be permanently deleted.

Police chiefs say they are legally entitled to maintain files on Catt, who has been taking part in a campaign to close down a Brighton arms factory owned by an American firm, EDO MBM Technology. According to police, the Smash EDO group has organised a "campaign of illegality designed to pressurise EDO to cease its lawful business", leading to "169 convictions including criminal damage and aggravated trespass, assault and harassment of staff".

The "minor" surveillance of Catt is justified, they say, because his "voluntary association at the Smash EDO protests forms part of a far wider picture of information which it is necessary for the police to continue to monitor in order to plan to maintain the peace, minimise the risks of criminal offending and adequately to detect and prosecute offenders".
 






Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Wish him nothing but ill
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

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Jul 15, 2004
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Waste of f***ing money. On BOTH sides. f*** sake.
 






So should police only worry about people with criminal records then? Catt has a point, but the fact is the world is becoming an increasingly dangerous place and it's important that radicals are spotted early and tracked by the authorities.

If in that process a miserable old interfering **** like Catt gets a file written about him then so be it. But let's be honest, it's probably in everyone's best interest if the fucker just hurries up and dies.
 


Hotchilidog

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Waste of f***ing money. On BOTH sides. f*** sake.

To be honest a waste of money from the Govt/Police side. John Catt, despite his twattish opposition to our tenure at Withdean (lock him up for that I say!), is quite clearly not a domestic "terrorist", just a peace campaigner. You can choose to disagree with his views, but he should be perfectly free to protest peacefully and within the law (no criminal record suggests he has) as indeed should we all. Another case of a using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, I hope he wins too.
 




Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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If it was anybody else I'd be 100% on their side - but as it's Catt I hope he gets crushed in a police baton charge. And I know that makes me sound petty, mean-spirited and a bit nasty but frankly I don't give a shit. He's an enemy of the Albion and an odious twat and I wish him nothing but ill.
 








bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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The action against the police is all about his personal freedom, so I can understand it.

The action against the council about Withdean Stadium was plain bonkers, and made up out of pure petty spite.

You reap what you sow.

He's just a nasty little busy body who has nothing better to do that be a pain in the arse. I hope he gets burgled.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Its a good job Obama didn't see the dossier (anti Guantanamo Bay = pro Al Qaeda to the Yanks) otherwise Withdean could have been nuked on a Saturday afternoon :ohmy:
 


Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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Don't give a f*** about him, I hope that somehow it costs him a fortune and he ends up living in a shitty bedsit somewhere :tosser:
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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You can choose to disagree with his views, but he should be perfectly free to protest peacefully and within the law (no criminal record suggests he has) as indeed should we all.

I think you will find he was (and indeed is) perfectly free to protest, and indeed he doth, albeit too much in the case of the Albion.

No one stopped him doing anything did they?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
He cost the club a lot of money defending ourselves in the High Court and House of Lords putting in his complaints about the Albion. Time that Martin Perry could have spent on the Falmer project instead of wasting on him. He even complained last Saturday to the council because the music started at 14.00 instead of the agreed 14.30.
He moved into Withdean two years after the Albion.:facepalm:
 






Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Pursuing various legal cases and lawsuits (at taxpayers expense) is his hobby, its what he has to fill his remaining days with. In fact I think his daughter is a solicitor or barrister or somesuch, so presumably he gets all the help he needs in filling out forms.

Personally, I hope his roof caves in, he gets savaged by a badger, contracts gonorrhea and loses his glasses. In no particular order.
 


Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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I hope the pointless coffin-dodging old twunt gets forcibly and lengthily bumraped by an admirably well-endowed chap outside the courtroom, inside the courtroom and right up his own jury box.
 


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