Indietracks Festival / all things C86 and indiepop!

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Many thanks. No the Nightingales were not effete (nothing wrong with effecte btw) and had a gritty socialist vibe to them. These here are sweet and melodic.

OK since you like 'X is the rebooted Y', where do you stand on Readbeat vs Killing Joke? I love them both . . . one poignant and the other irrepressable.

 

[Staly]

Bucketful of Brains used to make everything they reviewed sound really, really good. It almost invariably wasn't.

I saw the Stupids a few times, mainly at the Duchess though. Best gig on that Duchess flyer I posted (apart from Bongwater, who were astonishingly good) was Alice Donut and Crane. What a band Crane were- one of the great lost bands I think

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Interestingly, Mitch Easter now resembles a glam Arthur Scargill.

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[Staly]

Many thanks. No the Nightingales were not effete (nothing wrong with effecte btw) and had a gritty socialist vibe to them. These here are sweet and melodic.

OK since you like 'X is the rebooted Y', where do you stand on Readbeat vs Killing Joke? I love them both . . . one poignant and the other irrepressable.

No that's sort of the point I was making. There were two strands to 80s indiepop (well more than that really but bear with me), the jangly sixties stuff (I refuse to say effete) and the awkward shambling tendency. If Orange Juice were year zero for the janglers, and Josef K for the shamblers, I was depositing the Nightingales into the latter school. It really was a point worth making wasn't it?

I have no real knowledge of Readbeat, but I have fond memories of a group of us getting incredibly drunk on top of the Wrekin in 1986 listening to Love Like Blood to celebrate the end of our A Levels

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No that's sort of the point I was making. There were two strands to 80s indiepop (well more than that really but bear with me), the jangly sixties stuff (I refuse to say effete) and the awkward shambling tendency. If Orange Juice were year zero for the janglers, and Josef K for the shamblers, I was depositing the Nightingales into the latter school. It really was a point worth making wasn't it?

I have no real knowledge of Readbeat, but I have fond memories of a group of us getting incredibly drunk on top of the Wrekin in 1986 listening to Love Like Blood to celebrate the end of our A Levels

Nice. I think that Positive Noise, Blue Orchids, and Again Again may pip Joseph K for prototyping awkwardness, but I think of them all as initiators . . . .Redbeat? Check out Machines in Motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4tmUFgweQw

 

[Staly]

And the Fire Engines.

 

[Staly]

And the Pop Group

 

[Staly]

And the Fall (obviously).

 

[Staly]

Redbeat? Check out Machines in Motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4tmUFgweQw

They remind me of The Sound more than Killing Joke. Which is a good thing. With a bit of XTC thrown in

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

They remind me of The Sound more than Killing Joke. Which is a good thing. With a bit of XTC thrown in

They were on the same lable as KJ and toured with them. The lable decided to go with KG, and Redbeat split. But a couple of them were brothers of, and made a good living as, Howard Jone's backing band. The Jones brothers. Hmmm. The drummer is a very nice lad. I had some email chats with him some years ago (swapping tips about dodgy knees etc).

This is much mor KJ esque . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6AcC0bw6c

 

[shaun_rc]

Ah, I remember Adam and Eve's, Leeds in the late 1980s, Monday nights at the Phono. I remember seeing 999 too back in 1985 in the Riley Smith Hall at Leeds University. The singer looked like Bob Hoskins, from memory, they seemed like old punks then, let alone now...

It's always great to see these old gig flyers. The Happy Monday's as a support band etc...

 

[shaun_rc]

Nice to catch up with this thread. Interesting having Josef K as the start of the awkward side. There were definitely two sides to C86, one descended from Orange Juice, but the other side were the children of Mark E Smith, I'd say, rather than Josef K. That said, Josef K were a big influence on TWP, especially "The Missionary".

 

[Staly]

Ah, The Phono. A sea of black and purple...

 

[Pevenseagull]

The third great Leeds venue was the Warehouse. I saw lots of great gigs there too. My Bloody Valentine, Bogshed, the Primitives, er the Sperm Wails...

I didn't do 'freshers week' in at Leeds in 1990, at the tender age of 20 I got some casual work at The Warehouse and got paid to get pissed to The Blue Aeroplanes, The Pale Saints, The Cranes, The Wedding Present and numerous others whilst my peers were getting excited about seeing The Farm and Voice of the beehive. ...Or similar.

 

[shaun_rc]

Reclaim your inner goth! Many gigs watching Andrew Eldritch's hat floating above the dry ice. Actually Staly, I think we were at a lot of the same gigs at the Warehouse, Bogshed, MBV (with the original "Paint A Rainbow" era singer, The Nightingales..

 

[shaun_rc]

Pevenseagull, slightly later era! Leeds was still very goth in 1984...

 

[Staly]

Reclaim your inner goth! Many gigs watching Andrew Eldritch's hat floating above the dry ice. Actually Staly, I think we were at a lot of the same gigs at the Warehouse, Bogshed, MBV (with the original "Paint A Rainbow" era singer, The Nightingales..

Probably. Trying to think who else. Didn't MBV play Ricky's as well?

I remember the Merrion Centre on a Saturday afternoon as the goth legions waited for access to The Phono.

 

[Staly]

I didn't do 'freshers week' in at Leeds in 1990, at the tender age of 20 I got some casual work at The Warehouse and got paid to get pissed to The Blue Aeroplanes, The Pale Saints, The Cranes, The Wedding Present and numerous others whilst my peers were getting excited about seeing The Farm and Voice of the beehive. ...Or similar.

I was certainly at that Pale Saints gig.

 

[sparkie]

Ah, The Phono. A sea of black and purple...

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Went there many times in the late 80s.

 

[redoubtable seagull]

The third great Leeds venue was the Warehouse. I saw lots of great gigs there too. My Bloody Valentine, Bogshed, the Primitives, er the Sperm Wails...

Ah, the sperm wails. I booked them once. Great fun. Saw them support sonic youth as well. Used to like the primitives. Our little crowd of regular gig goers got quite friendly with them. They played the Richmond and the escape.