Have any of you ever been the subject of racial abuse?

[Chicken Runner61]

I haven't mentioned any kind of violence. Your reply makes no sense what so ever , its like a standard templated knee jerk response. Seriously, it makes no sense.

Okay give an example of anti white racism in the UK

 

[looney]

Okay give an example of anti white racism in the UK

The labour advisor discribing areas as ghastly white.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

The labour advisor discribing areas as ghastly white.

Source? and was the advisor themselves white?

 

[looney]

Source? and was the advisor themselves white?

The fact you are not even prepared to believe it shows how bad the problem is, and it doesn't matter what race you are saying it.

funny I cant find a reference for it, maybe someone else will? There have been similar comments about Jack straw and how the police take race crime more serious when its black on white rather than the other way thanks to being bludgeoned by "institutional racism". Also 3 met cops, white, are sueing for racial discrimination.

 

[Withdean11]

I have been the subject of racism quite a few times.

I am white British and have been hurled abuse by groups of Asians.

But of course, it is not racist that way round is it...?

 

[Mr Burns]

Racial abuse is not normal and the British society today no longer accepts it as such. If you're in our country you abide by our laws, no excuses.

Gus has let me down today; not by his attempt at sticking up for a mate, but by his attempt to normalise racial abuse.

Why has he let you down. THe abuse you got at school was racial, and compltely out of order.

I've been called a white ****, a useless **** on the pitch, and also have called someone a black **** during a game. It happens, get over it. Not everyone targets a coloured player, its just said in the heat of the moment. Same as not doubt bald people are reguallry called bald ***** in heat of battle. In the heat of tnhe moment, you pick the most obvious thing to say and say it, Cause I called someone a black ****, doesn't make me any more racist than a black person calling me a white ****. At the end of the game, well half time actually, we both apologised to each other and got on with it. Probably not the proudest moment of either of our careers, but no harm done.

If a player reguallry goes and makes comments like that, then yes, labeled him a racist, but FFS dont get offended by the odd slip up.

People going into a stadium with bananas to throw at black players is clearly disgusting and racist.

Someone like ROn Akinson calling someone a lazy black bastard, as a one off slip of the tongue isn't.

I think people have got to have a closer look at the meaning of rasicm. Its the hatred of another race, based on culture or colour. Calling someone a blsck or white **** in the heat of the moment, is no worse than calling someone a bald **** in the heat of the moment. Neither are really meant with any true meaning, its just a put down, and if anyone, black or white can be instulted by a one off comment about the colour of their skin, I think its them with the issue. More and mroe in this country people seem to like to get offended, even when it has f*** all to do with them!!!!

For the recorded, I have travelled to Asia, Africa and elsewhere in the world many times before, and plan to many times in teh future, and love seeing different cultures. SO before labeling me racist, would someone who clearly loves placing themseleves in other cultrues be a racist?? Its an over used term, that is becoming very boring. Yes, there is awful rasicm in this world, but lets not get to owrked up over the odd comment during a football match.

 

[Jonno]

I get loads of sledging during cricket matches here in Cape Town for being English, some amusing some not, can't say it worries me though and of course it can't be compared to the abuse suffered by many minorities

 

[arkan]

Been called a milky bar kid and a casper (as in the ghost), those where the 'funny' insults thrown at me.
Lived in Manchester in a pretty much all asian (pakistani) area, no problems at all except at the end of Ramadan, where everyone is out on the streets celebrating. Was with a mate of mine who is black and also a convert to Islam and got called kaffir ***** and for me, that white boys arent allowed in this area.
Was strange really as the lad lived a couple of streets from me, and occasionally sold weed to me and my flatmate, but never said anything those times.

Also was the same black guy and we were both close mates with a 2 sikhs from bradford off my course at uni, went round one of their friends houses for pre-clubbing antics, the look at me and my mate got was like when a stranger goes into a saloon in the wild west, everyone just stopped talking, and for the next hour no one could look at us, let alone talk to us, twas quite unnerving.

 

[8ace]

A lot of people seem to have a great deal of difficulty grasping the difference between racialist and xenophobic remarks.

 

[8ace]

A lot of people seem to have a great deal of difficulty grasping the difference between racialist and xenophobic remarks.

 

[Foster House]

Regularly racially abused by black and asian communities in Birmingham for being white. The black kids tended to also abuse asians (often more vehemently than whites) while the asians abused the blacks similarly. Everyone ganged up on the Somalis who, much as the jews in Hove when I was a kid, are something of a race apart.

Name calling is, in its intent, usually little more than a form of swearing to express anger and/or to cause upset - on the games field and in sports psychology terms it is rarely any more than a less literate form of antagonising the opposition than the more erudite efforts of the likes of Ferguson or Adkins. It is unpleasant for sure but contextually it is not necessarily racial abuse despite sharing the same characteristic language. Racial abuse is about fear of difference and having a focus of blame for real and percieved deprivation. The current spats appear, contextually and realistically, to be concerned with little more than name calling. They are largely pointless and do nothing to deal with the ingrained and inherent problems of disparity of opportunity in an ostensibly multi-cultural society. They do however give politicians of all creeds and colours a wonderful opportunity to ignore the real issues.

Does anyone believe in their heart that cutting out swearing and foul language between races will have any impact on the continued use of similar language in any other context least of all that it will somehow wave a metaphorical magic wand and resolve the issues and effects of inherent racism within our society? So a white player won't call a black one a black bastard (just a bastard maybe?) and a black player wont call a white one honkey (but may still diss his mother). But prosaically, will british born asians have any better chance of making a future in football than they currently do or more importantly will ethnic minorities ever be enabled to achieve academically at the same level of their white counterparts or occupy a lesser percentage of the jobless queues than they currently do?

Words are cheap, on the football pitch and off, but solutions to real problems need a determination to confront them and not be hidden behind a fatuous and facile argument that lets us all off too lightly.

That's probably the most appropriate and relevant post I have read in three years on this forum. It's too sensible to be accepted by general media and politicians alike though.

 

[Braders]

I've been falsely accused of racism , which in my mind is worse and very wrong.

Why it matters where people come from or skin colour or whatever matters I genuinely have no idea.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

The fact you are not even prepared to believe it shows how bad the problem is, and it doesn't matter what race you are saying it.

funny I cant find a reference for it, maybe someone else will? There have been similar comments about Jack straw and how the police take race crime more serious when its black on white rather than the other way thanks to being bludgeoned by "institutional racism". Also 3 met cops, white, are sueing for racial discrimination.

The fact you can't come up with source shows you are deluding yourself about how bad it it. I actually searched it for you and couldn't even find a Daily Mail report close to what you stated.

I have a mate who was beat up badly by some asian thugs after an argument with an asian taxi driver. There was a racial element but mainly it was about money, attitude and ignorance. But it happens on both sides and your Daily Mail type points only add fuel to the fire.

The police made the problem of not being able to catch racist attacks on white people harder because they don't get the support they should from the communities they come from. There was an element of racism within the police force years ago that made relations so bad some groups won't help the police even though they would like to.

 

[mistahclarke]

I've been falsely accused of racism , which in my mind is worse and very wrong.

Why it matters where people come from or skin colour or whatever matters I genuinely have no idea.

on the lighter side (no pun intended), you reminded me of this.

[video]http://en.gloria.tv/?media=103335[/video]

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Just asking, not trying to racially abuse anyone - but doesn't including anti-Ginger and anti-Welsh comments as 'racist' belittle the evil of true racism? I was recently invited (on the website of the liberal newspaper for which I had written something) to 'F*** off back to Warsaw, you Polish c***' but I don't consider the Poles a separate race so I don't feel racially abused whatever the moron who posted it intended. (Plus I was born in Buckingham Road anyway and my dad didn't come from Warsaw)

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

One of the difficulties of threads such as this is the tendency to belittle the experiences of others (as 'over-sensitive', 'can't take a joke' etc) so it becomes a competition to prove you're most sinned against and that the experiences of others with a different ethnicity / race / nationality / skin colour doesn't count or aren't as valid. All very self-serving.

Anyone who isn't self-serving is likely to get characterised as 'getting offended on behalf of others' which is just a line used to try to shame people out of practising the positive human traits of empathy and relatedness.

Me? I'm fed up with the point-scoring nature of the debate.

 

[The Grockle]

Shocking, I am guessing that they were just random small minded bigoted locals, rather than you having had the misfortune to stumble in on a branch meeting of the BNP.

It was just an ordinary village pub in Bramley, dont get me wrong it was no scene from american history X just a bit unpleasan and a reminder that people can still be right bigoted twats.

 

[User removed 4]

I lived in a real shit hole in North London for a year (Ponders End) and had quite a lot of racist abuse thrown my way. Black on White racism was quite prevalent from what I gathered. Although I've no doubt at all that it worked both ways. It didn't bother me much to be honest.

I live in a lovely, leafy part of Enfield now. Not had to deal with any racism.

It's not always the case but I generally equate racism to crap areas. The more affulent parts of the world don't seem to bother with it. Although of course I'm generalising.

Why, what EXACTLY makes you convinced of that ?

 

[User removed 4]

Okay give an example of anti white racism in the UK

at my school in south london in the early 80's, you could be literally best friends with a black boy, but have a fight with someone else black , and you were white and literally the whole black population of the school would fight you , your mate included, this is 100% true, i literally defy ANYONE who went to state school in south london in the 80's to deny it.

 

[NMH]

I worked at a match in South Stockholm a few weeks ago and there were monkey sounds at a black player.
Disgusting - but when I saw one of the main ringleaders was 'swarthy' himself it made it completely ridiculous.
I wanted to throw them out of the stand, but was told "there's not much we can do about it". What??

They really aren't up with the times or with stewarding and security here, I'm afraid.