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[Albion] Has anyone else done a 180 on Dan Burn.



b.w.2.

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I think the whole "he was bad last year but has improved a lot this one" is horseshit. He was good (aside for a few games, which is something he has in common with everybody) last season and the season before that, he is just percieved in a different way now because the last few results has been good.

That is junk. He was consistently a liability last season at LWB (he just isn’t a LWB as Cucu demonstrates repeatedly and admirably). Now BDB is in the position he should always play in and doing well (another few good games and even I may be convinced! ;-))


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One Teddy Maybank

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Exactly, as a LB no, he got left for dead in that position and thereby leaving the cb slot open for Evertons 2nd, not his fault as Cucu was eslewhere.

Yes, though Biss switched off I felt.

I just think when he plays on the left positionally, he often gets lost and looks a worse player than he actually is.
 


dazzer6666

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That is junk. He was consistently a liability last season at LWB (he just isn’t a LWB as Cucu demonstrates repeatedly and admirably). Now BDB is in the position he should always play in and doing well (another few good games and even I may be convinced! ;-))


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He wasn't consistently a liability. He did a decent job out of position.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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That is junk. He was consistently a liability last season at LWB (he just isn’t a LWB as Cucu demonstrates repeatedly and admirably). Now BDB is in the position he should always play in and doing well (another few good games and even I may be convinced! ;-))


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No, that's junk, he was perfectly adequate at LWB last season. It was at LB he struggled, notably against Wolves and Leicester. Also at this time last year he played CB against City, Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool and was excellent as we conceded just 1 goal across the 4 games.
 




We're the Stripes

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No, that's junk, he was perfectly adequate at LWB last season. It was at LB he struggled, notably against Wolves and Leicester. Also at this time last year he played CB against City, Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool and was excellent as we conceded just 1 goal across the 4 games.
Agreed - though did Burn not play LWB at Anfield last season? Remember him being a colossus that game regardless.
 


Bold Seagull

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He wasn't consistently a liability. He did a decent job out of position.

Exactly!! You’re not playing him at CB ahead of Dunk or Webster, he’s probably neck and neck with Duffy, but then I cannot see Dunk or Duffy playing as a wing back or full back and making a really decent job of it. He’s having a bit of a settled run in his preferred position and showing what a good player he is, not a revelation to most of us, a really hardworking pro getting everything out of his ability. These type of players go a bit unloved, but they are absolutely worth their weight in gold for what they give the squad.
 


Bold Seagull

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His role in Ali Mac's second yesterday hasn't been called out enough either - fantastic anticipation to win the ball from the Everton clearance, then the drive forward. Genuinely wouldn't drop him for Dunk at the moment, he deserves to stay at CB.

Agree, biggest risk a CB can take is trying to nick the ball in front, but shows how much confidence he’s got, and the environment this team is thriving in as they’re being very brave in all areas.
 




whosthedaddy

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Three points regarding Dan Burn.

1. He is a fantastic asset to the team

2. He is a Centre Back, not really a LB...and as for LWB...NO!

3. He appears to be a great bloke
 


redoubtable seagull

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That is junk. He was consistently a liability last season at LWB (he just isn’t a LWB as Cucu demonstrates repeatedly and admirably). Now BDB is in the position he should always play in and doing well (another few good games and even I may be convinced! ;-))


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To say he was consistently a liability last season is ridiculous. He had a run of games where he did not perform too well and one of those (Arsenal at home) was whilst playing as a CB. But generally he has and remains a solid player for us, whichever position he’s asked play. Cucu of course is different gravy at LŴB/LB.
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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That is junk. He was consistently a liability last season at LWB (he just isn’t a LWB as Cucu demonstrates repeatedly and admirably). Now BDB is in the position he should always play in and doing well (another few good games and even I may be convinced! ;-))


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Nope, he wasnt. Had a bad game against Leicester and another against Wolves. Other than that he was always good or better.
 




b.w.2.

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He wasn't consistently a liability. He did a decent job out of position.

Just my opinion. But it is history anyway. I think Potter has learned his lesson now


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b.w.2.

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No, that's junk, he was perfectly adequate at LWB last season. It was at LB he struggled, notably against Wolves and Leicester. Also at this time last year he played CB against City, Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool and was excellent as we conceded just 1 goal across the 4 games.

I think we might be agreeing. He is a CB. Not a LB or LWB. Why do you think we invested big in Cucu if BDB is good in those positions. Rhetorical question. He isn’t.


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b.w.2.

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Agreed - though did Burn not play LWB at Anfield last season? Remember him being a colossus that game regardless.

He was caught out of position at Anfield. Sorry


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b.w.2.

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Three points regarding Dan Burn.

1. He is a fantastic asset to the team

2. He is a Centre Back, not really a LB...and as for LWB...NO!

3. He appears to be a great bloke

All of those.


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b.w.2.

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To say he was consistently a liability last season is ridiculous. He had a run of games where he did not perform too well and one of those (Arsenal at home) was whilst playing as a CB. But generally he has and remains a solid player for us, whichever position he’s asked play. Cucu of course is different gravy at LŴB/LB.

As I said, he is not a LB/LWB. To be fair he is great CB cover, and was great yesterday. Waxing lyrical about how fab he is; a bit OTT IMHO


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b.w.2.

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Nope, he wasnt. Had a bad game against Leicester and another against Wolves. Other than that he was always good or better.

Just an opinion Swanny, but I think you are seeing Dan’s performances last season as better than they actually were, mostly at LWB


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Bold Seagull

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As I said, he is not a LB/LWB. To be fair he is great CB cover, and was great yesterday. Waxing lyrical about how fab he is; a bit OTT IMHO

So is labelling him a 'liability'. :rolleyes:

As for Cucurella coming in it doesn't confirm Burn is a bad player or a liability, just confirms Cucurella is an improvement. Being worse than Cururella in a position doesn't make you a bad player, not by a long chalk, not when Cucu is that good.
 




Swansman

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Just an opinion Swanny, but I think you are seeing Dan’s performances last season as better than they actually were, mostly at LWB


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I disagree.

I also look forward to the closure of the transfer window.
 


b.w.2.

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So is labelling him a 'liability'. :rolleyes:

As for Cucurella coming in it doesn't confirm Burn is a bad player or a liability, just confirms Cucurella is an improvement. Being worse than Cururella in a position doesn't make you a bad player, not by a long chalk, not when Cucu is that good.

He was a liability last season IMHO


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